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From: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org (Greg Kroah-Hartman)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] ARM Coresight: Enhance ETM tracing control
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205040104.GA14641@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANsc=4UGi5sMdUW5qQDzEJx4h8NDU+-b=xOLBAZtzbV5ugz3Fg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:49:25PM -0500, Adrien Verg? wrote:
> 2013/12/4 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>:
> > How much overhead does the existing tracing code have on ARM?  Is ETM
> > still even needed?  Why not just use ETM for the core tracing code
> > instead?
> 
> Coresight ETM is not just faster than /sys/kernel/debug/tracing, it
> provides more detailed and customisable info. For instance, you can
> trace every load, store, instruction fetch, along with the number of
> cycles taken, with almost zero-overhead.

Can't you already do that with the 'perf' tool the kernel provides
without the ETM driver?

> > What's wrong with the in-kernel tracing logic that you can't use that
> > instead of the ETM stuff?
> 
> ETM has a different purpose. Integrating it in
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing would not take advantage of all its
> features.

What is it's purpose then?  At first glance, this seems to be exactly
what 'perf' provides already.  Doesn't perf work on ARM today?

thanks,

greg k-h

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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Adrien Vergé" <adrienverge@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"zhangwei(Jovi)" <jovi.zhangwei@huawei.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ARM Coresight: Enhance ETM tracing control
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205040104.GA14641@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANsc=4UGi5sMdUW5qQDzEJx4h8NDU+-b=xOLBAZtzbV5ugz3Fg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:49:25PM -0500, Adrien Vergé wrote:
> 2013/12/4 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>:
> > How much overhead does the existing tracing code have on ARM?  Is ETM
> > still even needed?  Why not just use ETM for the core tracing code
> > instead?
> 
> Coresight ETM is not just faster than /sys/kernel/debug/tracing, it
> provides more detailed and customisable info. For instance, you can
> trace every load, store, instruction fetch, along with the number of
> cycles taken, with almost zero-overhead.

Can't you already do that with the 'perf' tool the kernel provides
without the ETM driver?

> > What's wrong with the in-kernel tracing logic that you can't use that
> > instead of the ETM stuff?
> 
> ETM has a different purpose. Integrating it in
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing would not take advantage of all its
> features.

What is it's purpose then?  At first glance, this seems to be exactly
what 'perf' provides already.  Doesn't perf work on ARM today?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-04  4:39 [PATCH 0/3] ARM Coresight: Enhance ETM tracing control Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04  4:39 ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04  7:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-04  7:04   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-04 16:52   ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04 16:52     ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04 17:07     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-04 17:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-04 21:12       ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04 21:12         ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-04 23:02         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-04 23:02           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05  3:49           ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-05  3:49             ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-05  4:01             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2013-12-05  4:01               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05 20:12               ` Christopher Covington
2013-12-05 20:12                 ` Christopher Covington
2013-12-05 20:16                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05 20:16                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05 22:45                   ` Christopher Covington
2013-12-05 22:45                     ` Christopher Covington
2013-12-05 23:26                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05 23:26                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-05 23:54                     ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-05 23:54                       ` Adrien Vergé
2013-12-06  0:06                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-06  0:06                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-06  0:23                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-12-06  0:23                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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