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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: "Sören Brinkmann" <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>,
	"Mike Turquette" <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	"Russell King" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] clk: Introduce 'clk_round_rate_nearest()'
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:34:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521073457.GD31687@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <668683e3-856e-4f30-9b11-8f3e91e12d1d@BL2FFO11FD038.protection.gbl>

Hello,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 02:48:20PM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 10:48AM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 05/20/14 09:01, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > >
> > >>>>> +{
> > >>>>> +	unsigned long lower, upper, cur, lower_last, upper_last;
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +	lower = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
> > >>>>> +	if (lower >= rate)
> > >>>>> +		return lower;
> > >>>> Is the >-case worth a warning?
> > >>> No, it's correct behavior. If you request a rate that is way lower than what the
> > >>> clock can generate, returning something larger is perfectly valid, IMHO.
> > >>> Which reveals one problem in this whole discussion. The API does not
> > >>> require clk_round_rate() to round down. It is actually an implementation
> > >>> choice that had been made for clk-divider.
> > >> I'm sure it's more than an implementation choice for clk-divider. But I
> > >> don't find any respective documentation (but I didn't try hard).
> > > A similar discussion - without final conclusion:
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/14/260
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Please call this new API something like clk_find_nearest_rate() or
> > something. clk_round_rate() is supposed to return the rate that will be
> > set if you call clk_set_rate() with the same arguments. It's up to the
> > implementation to decide if that means rounding the rate up or down or
> > to the nearest value.
> 
> Sounds good to me. Are there any cases of clocks that round up? I think
> that case would not be handled correctly. But I also don't see a use
> case for such an implementation.
I don't really care which semantic (i.e. round up, round down or round
closest) is picked, but I'd vote that all should pick up the same. I
think the least surprising definition is to choose rounding down and add
the function that is under discussion here to get a nearest match.

So I suggest:

	- if round_rate is given a rate that is smaller than the
	  smallest available rate, return 0
	- add WARN_ONCE to round_rate and set_rate if they return with a
	  rate bigger than requested
	- change the return values to unsigned long

Do we also need a round_up implementation?

Mike? Russell? Any thoughts from your side?

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

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From: u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (Uwe Kleine-König)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 2/5] clk: Introduce 'clk_round_rate_nearest()'
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:34:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521073457.GD31687@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <668683e3-856e-4f30-9b11-8f3e91e12d1d@BL2FFO11FD038.protection.gbl>

Hello,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 02:48:20PM -0700, S?ren Brinkmann wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 10:48AM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 05/20/14 09:01, S?ren Brinkmann wrote:
> > >
> > >>>>> +{
> > >>>>> +	unsigned long lower, upper, cur, lower_last, upper_last;
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +	lower = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
> > >>>>> +	if (lower >= rate)
> > >>>>> +		return lower;
> > >>>> Is the >-case worth a warning?
> > >>> No, it's correct behavior. If you request a rate that is way lower than what the
> > >>> clock can generate, returning something larger is perfectly valid, IMHO.
> > >>> Which reveals one problem in this whole discussion. The API does not
> > >>> require clk_round_rate() to round down. It is actually an implementation
> > >>> choice that had been made for clk-divider.
> > >> I'm sure it's more than an implementation choice for clk-divider. But I
> > >> don't find any respective documentation (but I didn't try hard).
> > > A similar discussion - without final conclusion:
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/14/260
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Please call this new API something like clk_find_nearest_rate() or
> > something. clk_round_rate() is supposed to return the rate that will be
> > set if you call clk_set_rate() with the same arguments. It's up to the
> > implementation to decide if that means rounding the rate up or down or
> > to the nearest value.
> 
> Sounds good to me. Are there any cases of clocks that round up? I think
> that case would not be handled correctly. But I also don't see a use
> case for such an implementation.
I don't really care which semantic (i.e. round up, round down or round
closest) is picked, but I'd vote that all should pick up the same. I
think the least surprising definition is to choose rounding down and add
the function that is under discussion here to get a nearest match.

So I suggest:

	- if round_rate is given a rate that is smaller than the
	  smallest available rate, return 0
	- add WARN_ONCE to round_rate and set_rate if they return with a
	  rate bigger than requested
	- change the return values to unsigned long

Do we also need a round_up implementation?

Mike? Russell? Any thoughts from your side?

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-K?nig            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14 22:30 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Frequency resolution in CCF vs. cpufreq Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] cpufreq: stats: Allow small rounding errors Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] clk: Introduce 'clk_round_rate_nearest()' Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-15  7:38   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-15  7:38     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-15 14:10     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:10       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:10       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19  0:51     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19  0:51       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19  0:51       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 16:19       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-19 16:19         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-19 16:41         ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 16:41           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 16:41           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 17:29           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 17:29             ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-19 17:29             ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-20  7:51             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-20  7:51               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-20  7:33           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-20  7:33             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-20 16:01             ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-20 16:01               ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-20 16:01               ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-20 17:48               ` Stephen Boyd
2014-05-20 17:48                 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-05-20 17:48                 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-05-20 21:48                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-20 21:48                   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21  7:34                   ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2014-05-21  7:34                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-21 15:58                     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 15:58                       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 15:58                       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 18:23                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-21 18:23                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-21 20:19                         ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 20:19                           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 20:19                           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-21 20:33                         ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-21 20:33                           ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-22 18:03                           ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 18:03                             ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 18:20                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-22 18:20                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-22 20:32                               ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 20:32                                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 20:32                                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 21:03                                 ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-22 21:03                                   ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-22 23:44                                   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-22 23:44                                     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-23  1:37                                     ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-23  1:37                                       ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-23 16:14                                       ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-23 16:14                                         ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-23 16:14                                         ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-26  6:29                                         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-26  6:29                                           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-26  6:29                                           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-26 11:22                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 11:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 11:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 11:07                                             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-26 11:07                                               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-26 11:47                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 11:47                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 21:52                                                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-26 21:52                                                   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-26 21:52                                                   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-28  2:05                                             ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-28  2:05                                               ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-28  2:05                                               ` Mike Turquette
2014-05-28 16:17                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-28 16:17                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-28 16:17                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-07  0:44                               ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-06-07  0:44                                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-06-07  0:44                                 ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] cpufreq: cpu0: Use clk_round_rate_nearest() Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] ARM: zynq: dt: Use properly rounded frequencies in OPPs Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] net: macb: Use clk_round_rate_nearest() API Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-14 22:30   ` Soren Brinkmann
2014-05-15  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Frequency resolution in CCF vs. cpufreq Viresh Kumar
2014-05-15  6:12   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-15 14:05   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:05     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:05     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15  7:47 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-15  7:47   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-05-15 12:14   ` Nishanth Menon
2014-05-15 12:14     ` Nishanth Menon
2014-05-15 12:14     ` Nishanth Menon
2014-05-15 14:00   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:00     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-05-15 14:00     ` Sören Brinkmann

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