From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 2/2] arm64: enable context tracking
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:49:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528184910.GC20523@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7hegzd99tw.fsf@paris.lan>
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:55:39PM +0100, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> Hi Will,
Hey Kevin,
> Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> writes:
> > Apologies if we've discussed this before (it rings a bell), but why are we
> > penalising the fast syscall path with this? Shouldn't TIF_NOHZ contribute to
> > out _TIF_WORK_MASK, then we could do the tracking on the syscall slow path?
>
> I'll answer here since Larry inherited this design decision from me.
>
> I considered (and even implemented) forcing the slow syscall path
> based on TIF_NOHZ but decided (perhaps wrongly) not to. I guess the
> choice is between:
>
> - forcing the overhead of syscall tracing path on all
> TIF_NOHZ processes
>
> - forcing the (much smaller) ct_user_exit overhead on all syscalls,
> (including the fast syscall path)
>
> I had decided that the former was better, but as I write this, I'm
> thinking that the NOHZ tasks should probably eat the extra overhead
> since we expect their interactions with the kernel to be minimal anyways
> (part of the goal of full NOHZ.)
>
> Ultimately, I'm OK with either way and have the other version ready.
I was just going by the comment in kernel/context_tracking.c:
* The context tracking uses the syscall slow path to implement its user-kernel
* boundaries probes on syscalls. This way it doesn't impact the syscall fast
* path on CPUs that don't do context tracking.
which doesn't match what the current patch does. It also makes it sounds
like context tracking is really a per-CPU thing, but I've never knowingly
used it before.
I think putting this on the slowpath is inline with the expectations in the
core code.
> > I think that would tidy up your mov into x19 too.
>
> That's correct. If we force the syscall_trace path, the ct_user_enter
> wouldn't have to do any context save/restore.
That would be nice.
> > Also -- how do you track ret_from_fork in the child with these patches?
>
> Not sure I follow the question, but ret_from_fork calls
> ret_to_user, which calls kernel_exit, which calls ct_user_enter.
Sorry, I got myself in a muddle. I noticed that x19 is live in ret_from_fork
so made a mental note to check that is ok (I think it is) but then concluded
incorrectly that you don't trace there.
Will
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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>
Cc: "larry.bassel@linaro.org" <larry.bassel@linaro.org>,
Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] arm64: enable context tracking
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:49:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528184910.GC20523@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7hegzd99tw.fsf@paris.lan>
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:55:39PM +0100, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> Hi Will,
Hey Kevin,
> Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> writes:
> > Apologies if we've discussed this before (it rings a bell), but why are we
> > penalising the fast syscall path with this? Shouldn't TIF_NOHZ contribute to
> > out _TIF_WORK_MASK, then we could do the tracking on the syscall slow path?
>
> I'll answer here since Larry inherited this design decision from me.
>
> I considered (and even implemented) forcing the slow syscall path
> based on TIF_NOHZ but decided (perhaps wrongly) not to. I guess the
> choice is between:
>
> - forcing the overhead of syscall tracing path on all
> TIF_NOHZ processes
>
> - forcing the (much smaller) ct_user_exit overhead on all syscalls,
> (including the fast syscall path)
>
> I had decided that the former was better, but as I write this, I'm
> thinking that the NOHZ tasks should probably eat the extra overhead
> since we expect their interactions with the kernel to be minimal anyways
> (part of the goal of full NOHZ.)
>
> Ultimately, I'm OK with either way and have the other version ready.
I was just going by the comment in kernel/context_tracking.c:
* The context tracking uses the syscall slow path to implement its user-kernel
* boundaries probes on syscalls. This way it doesn't impact the syscall fast
* path on CPUs that don't do context tracking.
which doesn't match what the current patch does. It also makes it sounds
like context tracking is really a per-CPU thing, but I've never knowingly
used it before.
I think putting this on the slowpath is inline with the expectations in the
core code.
> > I think that would tidy up your mov into x19 too.
>
> That's correct. If we force the syscall_trace path, the ct_user_enter
> wouldn't have to do any context save/restore.
That would be nice.
> > Also -- how do you track ret_from_fork in the child with these patches?
>
> Not sure I follow the question, but ret_from_fork calls
> ret_to_user, which calls kernel_exit, which calls ct_user_enter.
Sorry, I got myself in a muddle. I noticed that x19 is live in ret_from_fork
so made a mental note to check that is ok (I think it is) but then concluded
incorrectly that you don't trace there.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-28 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-26 18:56 [PATCH v5 0/2] context tracker support for arm64 Larry Bassel
2014-05-26 18:56 ` Larry Bassel
2014-05-26 18:56 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] arm64: adjust el0_sync so that a function can be called Larry Bassel
2014-05-26 18:56 ` Larry Bassel
2014-05-28 11:27 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-28 11:27 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-28 19:35 ` Larry Bassel
2014-05-28 19:35 ` Larry Bassel
2014-05-29 17:52 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-29 17:52 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-26 18:56 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] arm64: enable context tracking Larry Bassel
2014-05-26 18:56 ` Larry Bassel
2014-05-28 11:44 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-28 11:44 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-28 15:55 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-28 15:55 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-28 18:49 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-05-28 18:49 ` Will Deacon
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