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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: unparseable, undocumented /sys/class/drm/.../pstate
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:45:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140621194538.GA4903@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKb7UvhOCiBHcsB6a0qKBNsC3c9pmb=Wc7zucbBuP6vt-tx2eA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 02:22:59PM -0400, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > AFAICT, pstate file will contain something like
> >
> > 07: core 100 MHz memory 123 MHz *
> > 08: core 100-200 MHz memory 123 MHz
> >
> > ...which does not look exactly like one-value-per-file, and I'm pretty
> > sure userspace will get it wrong if it tries to parse it. Plus, I
> > don't see required documentation in Documentation/ABI.
> >
> > Should we disable it for now, so that userspace does not start
> > depending on it and we'll not have to maintain it forever?
> >
> > I guess better interface would be something like
> >
> > pstate/07/core_clock_min
> >           core_clock_max
> >           memory_clock_min
> >           memory_clock_max
> >
> > and then pstate/active containing just the number of active state?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >                                                                 Pavel
> >
> > PS: I have no nvidia, got the news at
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nouveau_try_linux316&num=2
> 
> FTR, this file has been in place since 3.13, and there was a different
> file before it (performance_levels), with a comparable format since
> much earlier (definitely 3.8, probably earlier). I think it's meant a
> lot more for people looking at it and echo'ing stuff to it to modify
> the levels (where supported), than for programs parsing it. Perhaps
> sysfs is the wrong place for this -- what is the right place? debugfs?

Yes, please move it to debugfs.

greg k-h

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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: unparseable, undocumented /sys/class/drm/.../pstate
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:45:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140621194538.GA4903@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKb7UvhOCiBHcsB6a0qKBNsC3c9pmb=Wc7zucbBuP6vt-tx2eA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 02:22:59PM -0400, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > AFAICT, pstate file will contain something like
> >
> > 07: core 100 MHz memory 123 MHz *
> > 08: core 100-200 MHz memory 123 MHz
> >
> > ...which does not look exactly like one-value-per-file, and I'm pretty
> > sure userspace will get it wrong if it tries to parse it. Plus, I
> > don't see required documentation in Documentation/ABI.
> >
> > Should we disable it for now, so that userspace does not start
> > depending on it and we'll not have to maintain it forever?
> >
> > I guess better interface would be something like
> >
> > pstate/07/core_clock_min
> >           core_clock_max
> >           memory_clock_min
> >           memory_clock_max
> >
> > and then pstate/active containing just the number of active state?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >                                                                 Pavel
> >
> > PS: I have no nvidia, got the news at
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nouveau_try_linux316&num=2
> 
> FTR, this file has been in place since 3.13, and there was a different
> file before it (performance_levels), with a comparable format since
> much earlier (definitely 3.8, probably earlier). I think it's meant a
> lot more for people looking at it and echo'ing stuff to it to modify
> the levels (where supported), than for programs parsing it. Perhaps
> sysfs is the wrong place for this -- what is the right place? debugfs?

Yes, please move it to debugfs.

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-21 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-21 18:02 unparseable, undocumented /sys/class/drm/.../pstate Pavel Machek
2014-06-21 18:22 ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-21 18:22   ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-21 18:50   ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-21 18:50     ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-21 19:34     ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-21 19:34       ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-21 19:45   ` Greg KH [this message]
2014-06-21 19:45     ` Greg KH
2014-06-23  2:12     ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23  2:12       ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 13:02       ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 13:02         ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 13:29         ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 13:29           ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 20:15           ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 20:15             ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 20:18             ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 20:18               ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 20:26               ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 20:26                 ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 20:32                 ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 20:32                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-24  0:06                 ` Ben Skeggs
2014-06-24  0:06                   ` Ben Skeggs
2014-06-24 16:00                   ` Greg KH
2014-06-24 16:00                     ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 16:07       ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 16:07         ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 16:18         ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 16:18           ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 16:36           ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 16:36             ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 16:40             ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 16:40               ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 17:46               ` Martin Peres
2014-06-23 17:46                 ` Martin Peres
2014-06-23 17:56                 ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 17:56                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 18:00                   ` Martin Peres
2014-06-23 18:00                     ` Martin Peres
2014-06-23 18:05                     ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 18:05                       ` Ilia Mirkin
2014-06-23 18:09                 ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 18:09                   ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 18:08               ` Greg KH
2014-06-23 18:08                 ` Greg KH

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