From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/17] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:23:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141001152356.GA15818@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2012641.4eaGXZM5vo@wuerfel>
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:50:13AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 29 September 2014 10:23:25 Thierry Reding wrote:
> >
> > How about if I keep iterating this series? It seems like most failures
> > can be reproduced by doing ARM defconfig and allmodconfig builds, so
> > I'll do those and fix up any issues I find. Hopefully I can squash all
> > these before 3.18-rc1, then we can take it into linux-next early for
> > 3.19? In the meantime perhaps I can work with Olof to get a branch with
> > these patches tested on his builder? And perhaps on the 0-day builder in
> > addition?
>
> Yes, definitely!
>
> Note that I saw a lot of problems only in randconfig build tests but
> not in any of the default configurations. I'll send you the fixup patch
> soon so you can integrate that in your series.
One of the things I've seen a lot is warnings about volatile being
ignored. This is caused by my latest series dropping the volatile
keyword for the I/O accessors. The rationale being that use of volatile
should be an implementation detail of the accessors rather than the
function signature.
Unfortunately there seems to be a *lot* of code in the kernel that uses
volatile where it probably doesn't make sense. In fact all the warnings
that I've been getting are from code that uses I/O accessors on the I/O
memory, hence shouldn't have to worry about volatile. See also
Documentation/volatile-considered-harmful.txt.
Given the massive amount of changes needed to remove these warnings, is
it better to just keep the volatile keyword even if it's clearly wrong
in the context of the I/O accessors? Or should we bite the bullet and
remove all the wrong uses while at it?
I suppose if we decide to remove them we can always make that a separate
patch series.
Thierry
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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"chris@zankel.net" <chris@zankel.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/17] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:23:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141001152356.GA15818@ulmo> (raw)
Message-ID: <20141001152358.Kk-EoZDsPJoiqgtldpFpAU5bncuGT_eaGdTzF2xY9r4@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2012641.4eaGXZM5vo@wuerfel>
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:50:13AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 29 September 2014 10:23:25 Thierry Reding wrote:
> >
> > How about if I keep iterating this series? It seems like most failures
> > can be reproduced by doing ARM defconfig and allmodconfig builds, so
> > I'll do those and fix up any issues I find. Hopefully I can squash all
> > these before 3.18-rc1, then we can take it into linux-next early for
> > 3.19? In the meantime perhaps I can work with Olof to get a branch with
> > these patches tested on his builder? And perhaps on the 0-day builder in
> > addition?
>
> Yes, definitely!
>
> Note that I saw a lot of problems only in randconfig build tests but
> not in any of the default configurations. I'll send you the fixup patch
> soon so you can integrate that in your series.
One of the things I've seen a lot is warnings about volatile being
ignored. This is caused by my latest series dropping the volatile
keyword for the I/O accessors. The rationale being that use of volatile
should be an implementation detail of the accessors rather than the
function signature.
Unfortunately there seems to be a *lot* of code in the kernel that uses
volatile where it probably doesn't make sense. In fact all the warnings
that I've been getting are from code that uses I/O accessors on the I/O
memory, hence shouldn't have to worry about volatile. See also
Documentation/volatile-considered-harmful.txt.
Given the massive amount of changes needed to remove these warnings, is
it better to just keep the volatile keyword even if it's clearly wrong
in the context of the I/O accessors? Or should we bite the bullet and
remove all the wrong uses while at it?
I suppose if we decide to remove them we can always make that a separate
patch series.
Thierry
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-24 17:17 [PATCH v3 00/17] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] asm-generic: io: implement relaxed accessor macros as conditional wrappers Will Deacon
2014-09-25 10:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 10:38 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 10:38 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 11:44 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 11:44 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] microblaze: io: remove dummy relaxed accessor macros Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] s390: io: remove dummy relaxed accessor macros for reads Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] xtensa: " Will Deacon
2014-09-25 15:22 ` Max Filippov
2014-09-25 15:22 ` Max Filippov
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] frv: io: implement dummy relaxed accessor macros for writes Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] cris: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] ia64: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] m32r: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] m68k: " Will Deacon
2014-09-25 1:05 ` Greg Ungerer
2014-09-25 1:05 ` Greg Ungerer
2014-09-25 9:33 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 9:33 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 9:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-25 9:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-25 10:33 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 10:33 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] mn10300: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] parisc: " Will Deacon
2014-09-25 20:00 ` Helge Deller
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] powerpc: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] sparc: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] tile: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] x86: " Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] documentation: memory-barriers: clarify relaxed io accessor semantics Will Deacon
2014-09-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] asm-generic: io: define relaxed accessor macros unconditionally Will Deacon
2014-09-25 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 00/17] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 14:55 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 14:55 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-25 15:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 15:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 15:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 15:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 15:24 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-25 15:24 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-25 19:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 19:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 20:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-25 20:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-26 8:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-26 8:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-26 9:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 9:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 8:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-26 8:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-26 13:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 13:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 13:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-26 13:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-26 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-29 8:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 8:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 9:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-29 9:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 15:23 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-10-01 15:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 18:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 18:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-29 9:25 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-29 9:25 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-29 9:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-29 9:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 16:59 ` Will Deacon
2014-10-30 16:59 ` Will Deacon
2014-10-30 20:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 20:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-31 11:09 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-31 11:09 ` Thierry Reding
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