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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux Filesystem Development List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux btrfs Developers List <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:19:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141127201954.GF14091@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141127131421.GE30152@quack.suse.cz>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:14:21PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> Looking into the code & your patch I'd prefer to do something like:
> * add support for I_DIRTY_TIME in __mark_inode_dirty() - update_time will
>   call __mark_inode_dirty() with this flag if any of the times was updated.
>   That way we can just remove your ->write_time() callback - filesystems
>   can just handle this in their ->dirty_inode() methods if they wish.
>   __mark_inode_dirty() will take care of moving inode into proper writeback
>   list (i_dirty / i_dirty_time), dirtied_when will be set to current time.

One of the tricky bits about this is that btrfs wants to be able to
return an error from write_time() which gets reflected up through
update_time() to the callers of file_update_time().  Currently
__mark_inode_dirty() and family return a void, and changing this is
going to be a bit of a mess, since doing this correctly would require
auditing all of the callers of mark_inode_dirty(),
mark_inode_dirty_sync(), __mark_inode_dirty(), etc.

Doing this would be a good thing, and eventually I think it would be
nice if we could allow the mark_inode_dirty() functions return an
error instead of void, but I wonder if that's a cleanup that's better
saved for later.  While we were at it, maybe we should rename
mark_inode_dirty() to inode_dirty(), since that way we can be sure
we've looked at all of the call site of mark_inode_dirty() and friends
--- and we have a number of file systems, including btrfs, ext3, and
ext4, where mark_inode_dirty() is doing a lot more than just marking
the inode is dirty, and the only reason why it's named that is mostly
historical.

						- Ted

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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux Filesystem Development List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux btrfs Developers List <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:19:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141127201954.GF14091@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141127131421.GE30152@quack.suse.cz>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:14:21PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> Looking into the code & your patch I'd prefer to do something like:
> * add support for I_DIRTY_TIME in __mark_inode_dirty() - update_time will
>   call __mark_inode_dirty() with this flag if any of the times was updated.
>   That way we can just remove your ->write_time() callback - filesystems
>   can just handle this in their ->dirty_inode() methods if they wish.
>   __mark_inode_dirty() will take care of moving inode into proper writeback
>   list (i_dirty / i_dirty_time), dirtied_when will be set to current time.

One of the tricky bits about this is that btrfs wants to be able to
return an error from write_time() which gets reflected up through
update_time() to the callers of file_update_time().  Currently
__mark_inode_dirty() and family return a void, and changing this is
going to be a bit of a mess, since doing this correctly would require
auditing all of the callers of mark_inode_dirty(),
mark_inode_dirty_sync(), __mark_inode_dirty(), etc.

Doing this would be a good thing, and eventually I think it would be
nice if we could allow the mark_inode_dirty() functions return an
error instead of void, but I wonder if that's a cleanup that's better
saved for later.  While we were at it, maybe we should rename
mark_inode_dirty() to inode_dirty(), since that way we can be sure
we've looked at all of the call site of mark_inode_dirty() and friends
--- and we have a number of file systems, including btrfs, ext3, and
ext4, where mark_inode_dirty() is doing a lot more than just marking
the inode is dirty, and the only reason why it's named that is mostly
historical.

						- Ted

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-27 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 10:23 [PATCH-v4 0/7] add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 1/7] vfs: split update_time() into update_time() and write_time() Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-26 19:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 12:34     ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 12:34       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 15:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 14:41     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 14:41       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 15:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 15:33       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:33         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 16:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 16:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 20:27           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 20:27             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01  9:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-01  9:28               ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-01 15:04               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01 15:04                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01 17:18                 ` David Sterba
2014-12-01 17:18                   ` David Sterba
2014-12-02  9:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-02  9:20                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-02 15:09                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-02 15:09                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 13:14   ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:14     ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:19     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-11-27 20:19       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 12:41       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-28 12:41         ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 23:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 23:00       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28  5:36       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28  5:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 16:24       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-28 16:24         ` Jan Kara
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 3/7] vfs: don't let the dirty time inodes get more than a day stale Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 4/7] vfs: add lazytime tracepoints for better debugging Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 5/7] vfs: add find_active_inode_nowait() function Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 6/7] ext4: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-26 19:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-26 22:48   ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 22:48     ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 23:10     ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-26 23:10       ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-26 23:35       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 23:35         ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-27 13:27         ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:27           ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:32           ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:32             ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:25             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:25               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:41               ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:41                 ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:13                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 20:13                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 7/7] btrfs: add an is_readonly() so btrfs can use common code for update_time() Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23   ` Theodore Ts'o

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