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From: "Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemming@brocade.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] Multicast packets being lost (3.10 stable)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:16:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141210191633.GA2473@odroid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140910133341.GI7058@odroid>

Hi David,

did you have a chance to look into backporting these fixes for
stable yet? (if I read the docs correctly, I should query you for
suggestions for stable kernels, right?)

Also, an eighth patch I'd suggest for stable now:

8) bridge: fix netfilter/NF_BR_LOCAL_OUT for own, locally generated queries
   -> f0b4eeced (since 3.18)


If there's anything unclear, just let me know. Thanks :)!

Cheers, Linus


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:33:41PM +0200, Linus Lüssing wrote:
> I just got a complaint about bridges, multicast and a
> 3.10 kernel again. Seems like nobody had any objections about
> queueing these two patches for stable ( 2)+3) )?
> 
> Also I'm still missing some more fixes in the stable branches.
> Especially 5), 6) and 7) are of high priority (next to 2) and 3) )
> in my opinion as otherwise IPv6 in general could be broken for people
> using 3.12 or 3.13 (as 3.12 contains a patch which activates
> multicast snooping for link-local addresses, too: 3c3769e63).
> 
> Here is a more ordered list of patches I'd suggest to be queued for
> stable:
> 
> 1) bridge: fix switched interval for MLD Query types
>    -> 32de868cb (present since 3.10)
> 2) bridge: disable snooping if there is no querier
>    -> b00589af3 (present since 3.11)
> 3) bridge: don't try to update timers in case of broken MLD queries
>    -> 248ba8ec0 (present since 3.11)
> 4) Revert "bridge: only expire the mdb entry when query is received"
>    -> 454594f3b (present since 3.12)
> 5) bridge: multicast: add sanity check for query source addresses
>    -> 6565b9eee (present since 3.14)
> 6) bridge: multicast: add sanity check for general query destination
>    -> 9ed973cc4 (present since 3.14)
> 7) bridge: multicast: enable snooping on general queries only
>    -> 20a599bec (present since 3.14)
> 
> Let me know what you'd think about that or if there's any trouble
> applying them to older kernels.
> 
> Cheers, Linus
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +0100, Linus Lüssing wrote:
> > That commit is supposed to be a fix and seems to be a easily
> > cherry-pickable on top of 3.10. So I think it's suitable for
> > stable
> > 
> > There are two follow-up commit for this particular patch that I'm aware
> > of: "bridge: separate querier and query timer into IGMP/IPv4
> > and MLD/IPv6 ones" (cc0fdd80). That's just an optimization
> > and can be ignored for stable.
> > 
> > The second one is "bridge: don't try to update timers in case of
> > broken MLD queries" (248ba8ec0). Which is a direct fix for
> > b00589af3 and should therefore go into stable, too, if b00589af3
> > goes into stable.
> > 
> > Cheers, Linus
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 09:41:07AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > We are seeing multicast snooping related issues.
> > > Is there some reason this commit never went into stable (3.10)
> > > 
> > > commit b00589af3b04736376f24625ab0b394642e89e29
> > > Author: Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@web.de>
> > > Date:   Thu Aug 1 01:06:20 2013 +0200
> > > 
> > >     bridge: disable snooping if there is no querier
> > >     
> > >     If there is no querier on a link then we won't get periodic reports and
> > >     therefore won't be able to learn about multicast listeners behind ports,
> > >     potentially leading to lost multicast packets, especially for multicast
> > >     listeners that joined before the creation of the bridge.
> > >     
> > >     These lost multicast packets can appear since c5c23260594
> > >     ("bridge: Add multicast_querier toggle and disable queries by default")
> > >     in particular.
> > >     
> > >     With this patch we are flooding multicast packets if our querier is
> > >     disabled and if we didn't detect any other querier.
> > >     
> > >     A grace period of the Maximum Response Delay of the querier is added to
> > >     give multicast responses enough time to arrive and to be learned from
> > >     before disabling the flooding behaviour again.
> > >     
> > >     Signed-off-by: Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@web.de>
> > >     Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemming@brocade.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: Multicast packets being lost (3.10 stable)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:16:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141210191633.GA2473@odroid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140910133341.GI7058@odroid>

Hi David,

did you have a chance to look into backporting these fixes for
stable yet? (if I read the docs correctly, I should query you for
suggestions for stable kernels, right?)

Also, an eighth patch I'd suggest for stable now:

8) bridge: fix netfilter/NF_BR_LOCAL_OUT for own, locally generated queries
   -> f0b4eeced (since 3.18)


If there's anything unclear, just let me know. Thanks :)!

Cheers, Linus


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:33:41PM +0200, Linus Lüssing wrote:
> I just got a complaint about bridges, multicast and a
> 3.10 kernel again. Seems like nobody had any objections about
> queueing these two patches for stable ( 2)+3) )?
> 
> Also I'm still missing some more fixes in the stable branches.
> Especially 5), 6) and 7) are of high priority (next to 2) and 3) )
> in my opinion as otherwise IPv6 in general could be broken for people
> using 3.12 or 3.13 (as 3.12 contains a patch which activates
> multicast snooping for link-local addresses, too: 3c3769e63).
> 
> Here is a more ordered list of patches I'd suggest to be queued for
> stable:
> 
> 1) bridge: fix switched interval for MLD Query types
>    -> 32de868cb (present since 3.10)
> 2) bridge: disable snooping if there is no querier
>    -> b00589af3 (present since 3.11)
> 3) bridge: don't try to update timers in case of broken MLD queries
>    -> 248ba8ec0 (present since 3.11)
> 4) Revert "bridge: only expire the mdb entry when query is received"
>    -> 454594f3b (present since 3.12)
> 5) bridge: multicast: add sanity check for query source addresses
>    -> 6565b9eee (present since 3.14)
> 6) bridge: multicast: add sanity check for general query destination
>    -> 9ed973cc4 (present since 3.14)
> 7) bridge: multicast: enable snooping on general queries only
>    -> 20a599bec (present since 3.14)
> 
> Let me know what you'd think about that or if there's any trouble
> applying them to older kernels.
> 
> Cheers, Linus
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +0100, Linus Lüssing wrote:
> > That commit is supposed to be a fix and seems to be a easily
> > cherry-pickable on top of 3.10. So I think it's suitable for
> > stable
> > 
> > There are two follow-up commit for this particular patch that I'm aware
> > of: "bridge: separate querier and query timer into IGMP/IPv4
> > and MLD/IPv6 ones" (cc0fdd80). That's just an optimization
> > and can be ignored for stable.
> > 
> > The second one is "bridge: don't try to update timers in case of
> > broken MLD queries" (248ba8ec0). Which is a direct fix for
> > b00589af3 and should therefore go into stable, too, if b00589af3
> > goes into stable.
> > 
> > Cheers, Linus
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 09:41:07AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > We are seeing multicast snooping related issues.
> > > Is there some reason this commit never went into stable (3.10)
> > > 
> > > commit b00589af3b04736376f24625ab0b394642e89e29
> > > Author: Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@web.de>
> > > Date:   Thu Aug 1 01:06:20 2013 +0200
> > > 
> > >     bridge: disable snooping if there is no querier
> > >     
> > >     If there is no querier on a link then we won't get periodic reports and
> > >     therefore won't be able to learn about multicast listeners behind ports,
> > >     potentially leading to lost multicast packets, especially for multicast
> > >     listeners that joined before the creation of the bridge.
> > >     
> > >     These lost multicast packets can appear since c5c23260594
> > >     ("bridge: Add multicast_querier toggle and disable queries by default")
> > >     in particular.
> > >     
> > >     With this patch we are flooding multicast packets if our querier is
> > >     disabled and if we didn't detect any other querier.
> > >     
> > >     A grace period of the Maximum Response Delay of the querier is added to
> > >     give multicast responses enough time to arrive and to be learned from
> > >     before disabling the flooding behaviour again.
> > >     
> > >     Signed-off-by: Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@web.de>
> > >     Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-10 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-24 16:41 Multicast packets being lost (3.10 stable) Stephen Hemminger
2014-03-25 13:06 ` Linus Lüssing
2014-09-10 13:33   ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2014-09-10 13:33     ` Linus Lüssing
2014-12-10 19:16     ` Linus Lüssing [this message]
2014-12-10 19:16       ` Linus Lüssing
2014-12-13 20:37       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2014-12-13 20:37         ` David Miller
2014-12-15  8:04         ` [Bridge] " Simon Horman
2014-12-15  8:04           ` Simon Horman

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