From: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Progress on system crash traces with LTTng using DAX and pmem
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:48:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141213114827.GA7761@console-pimps.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864133911.4806.1414681896478.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
On Thu, 30 Oct, at 03:11:36PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> Hi Kirill,
>
> This is a good point,
>
> There are a few more aspects to consider here:
>
> - Other architectures appear to have different guarantees, for
> instance ARM which, AFAIK, does not reset memory on soft
> reboot (well at least for my customer's boards). So I guess
> if x86 wants to be competitive, it would be good for them to
> offer a similar feature,
>
> - Already having a subset of machines supporting this is useful,
> e.g. storing trace buffers and recovering them after a crash,
>
> - Since we are in a world of dynamically upgradable BIOS, perhaps
> if we can show that there is value in having a BIOS option to
> specify a memory range that should not be reset on soft reboot,
> BIOS vendors might be inclined to include an option for it,
>
> - Perhaps UEFI BIOS already have some way of specifying that a
> memory range should not be reset on soft reboot ?
We've achieved this in the past using UEFI capsules with the
EFI_CAPSULE_PERSIST_ACROSS_RESET header flag.
Unfortunately, runtime capsule support is pretty spotty, so it's not a
general solution right now.
--
Matt Fleming, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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From: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Progress on system crash traces with LTTng using DAX and pmem
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:48:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141213114827.GA7761@console-pimps.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864133911.4806.1414681896478.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
On Thu, 30 Oct, at 03:11:36PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> Hi Kirill,
>
> This is a good point,
>
> There are a few more aspects to consider here:
>
> - Other architectures appear to have different guarantees, for
> instance ARM which, AFAIK, does not reset memory on soft
> reboot (well at least for my customer's boards). So I guess
> if x86 wants to be competitive, it would be good for them to
> offer a similar feature,
>
> - Already having a subset of machines supporting this is useful,
> e.g. storing trace buffers and recovering them after a crash,
>
> - Since we are in a world of dynamically upgradable BIOS, perhaps
> if we can show that there is value in having a BIOS option to
> specify a memory range that should not be reset on soft reboot,
> BIOS vendors might be inclined to include an option for it,
>
> - Perhaps UEFI BIOS already have some way of specifying that a
> memory range should not be reset on soft reboot ?
We've achieved this in the past using UEFI capsules with the
EFI_CAPSULE_PERSIST_ACROSS_RESET header flag.
Unfortunately, runtime capsule support is pretty spotty, so it's not a
general solution right now.
--
Matt Fleming, Intel Open Source Technology Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-13 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2014-10-25 12:51 ` Progress on system crash traces with LTTng using DAX and pmem Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-10-25 12:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-10-27 18:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-27 18:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-30 15:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-10-30 15:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-01-25 14:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-01-25 14:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-10-28 10:54 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-28 10:54 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-30 15:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-10-30 15:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-12-13 11:48 ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2014-12-13 11:48 ` Matt Fleming
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