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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>, nm@ti.com
Cc: rui.zhang@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, pali.rohar@gmail.com, sre@debian.org,
	sre@ring0.de,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, tony@atomide.com, khilman@kernel.org,
	aaro.koskinen@iki.fi, ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thermal: add omap3 support
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150103220219.GA26747@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150103123426.GA26069@developer>

Hi!

> Thanks for sending your code.

You are welcome.

> > Add support for omap3430 sensor. Tested on Nokia N900.
> 
> To my understanding, and as already mentioned by Nishanth Menon
> (currently TIer), TI has intentionally avoided adding this support.

Well, Nokia had similar code in their kernel.

> There is a hardware accuracy limitation in this sensor, and therefore it
> is not advisable to use it, specially in Dynamic Thermal Management,
> such as the thermal framework.

We are talking cellphone here. Yes, sensor may be inacurate (but it
seems to work pretty well; perhaps TI can point us to some docs that
explains the details?), but it provides useful information (mostly
room temperature). I don't think we'll ever run anywhere close to
thermal limits where inacuracy would matter. (Battery can't really
take > 60C. AFAICT CPU limit is 120C. Battery is close to the CPU.)

> > Signed-off-by: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > index bd4c7be..a49495f 100644
> > --- a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > @@ -21,6 +21,15 @@ config TI_THERMAL
> >  	  This includes trip points definitions, extrapolation rules and
> >  	  CPU cooling device bindings.
> >  
> > +config OMAP3_THERMAL
> > +	bool "Texas Instruments OMAP3 thermal support"
> > +	depends on TI_SOC_THERMAL
> > +	depends on ARCH_OMAP3
> > +	help
> > +	  If you say yes here you get thermal support for the Texas Instruments
> > +	  OMAP3 SoC family. The current chip supported are:
> > +	   - OMAP3430
> 
> But if you insist :-), I believe the user deserves at least a fair
> message saying this is on his / her own risk.

Something like this?

          If you say yes here you get thermal support for the Texas Instruments
	  OMAP3 SoC family. The current chip supported are:
	              - OMAP3430

          OMAP3 chips normally don't need thermal management, and sensors in
	  this generation are not very accurate, nor they are very close to
          the important hotspots.

          Say 'N' here.
	  

> > +static struct temp_sensor_registers
> > +omap34xx_mpu_temp_sensor_registers = {
> > +	.temp_sensor_ctrl = 0,
> > +	.bgap_tempsoff_mask = 0, /* Unused, we don't have POWER_SWITCH */
> > +	.bgap_soc_mask = BIT(8),
> > +	.bgap_eocz_mask = BIT(7),
> > +	.bgap_dtemp_mask = 0x7f,
> > +
> > +	.bgap_mode_ctrl = 0,
> > +	.mode_ctrl_mask = BIT(9),
> > +
> > +	.bgap_efuse = 0,
> 
> The 0'ed filed may be removed here.

Ok; I'll keep temp_sensors_ctrl / bgap_mode_ctrl, because it is actually used.


> > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > index 634b6ce..3b4e72f 100644
> > --- a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > +++ b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > @@ -1509,6 +1531,12 @@ static SIMPLE_DEV_PM_OPS(ti_bandgap_dev_pm_ops, ti_bandgap_suspend,
> >  #endif
> >  
> >  static const struct of_device_id of_ti_bandgap_match[] = {
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_OMAP3_THERMAL
> > +	{
> > +		.compatible = "ti,omap34xx-bandgap",
> 
> This needs to be updated in the binding documentation.
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/ti_soc_thermal.txt

Ok.

> > +		.data = (void *)&omap34xx_data,
> 
> 
> Having a run time message intentionally advising users of the risk of
> using this sensor is also required.

Ok, what about?

    if (TI_BANDGAP_HAS(bgp, UNRELIABLE))
              dev_warn(&pdev->dev,
                         "OMAP3 thermal sensor is unreliable and normally unneccessary\n");

Will not fit in 80 columns, but keeping message on one line is more important.
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] thermal: add omap3 support
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150103220219.GA26747@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150103123426.GA26069@developer>

Hi!

> Thanks for sending your code.

You are welcome.

> > Add support for omap3430 sensor. Tested on Nokia N900.
> 
> To my understanding, and as already mentioned by Nishanth Menon
> (currently TIer), TI has intentionally avoided adding this support.

Well, Nokia had similar code in their kernel.

> There is a hardware accuracy limitation in this sensor, and therefore it
> is not advisable to use it, specially in Dynamic Thermal Management,
> such as the thermal framework.

We are talking cellphone here. Yes, sensor may be inacurate (but it
seems to work pretty well; perhaps TI can point us to some docs that
explains the details?), but it provides useful information (mostly
room temperature). I don't think we'll ever run anywhere close to
thermal limits where inacuracy would matter. (Battery can't really
take > 60C. AFAICT CPU limit is 120C. Battery is close to the CPU.)

> > Signed-off-by: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > index bd4c7be..a49495f 100644
> > --- a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/Kconfig
> > @@ -21,6 +21,15 @@ config TI_THERMAL
> >  	  This includes trip points definitions, extrapolation rules and
> >  	  CPU cooling device bindings.
> >  
> > +config OMAP3_THERMAL
> > +	bool "Texas Instruments OMAP3 thermal support"
> > +	depends on TI_SOC_THERMAL
> > +	depends on ARCH_OMAP3
> > +	help
> > +	  If you say yes here you get thermal support for the Texas Instruments
> > +	  OMAP3 SoC family. The current chip supported are:
> > +	   - OMAP3430
> 
> But if you insist :-), I believe the user deserves at least a fair
> message saying this is on his / her own risk.

Something like this?

          If you say yes here you get thermal support for the Texas Instruments
	  OMAP3 SoC family. The current chip supported are:
	              - OMAP3430

          OMAP3 chips normally don't need thermal management, and sensors in
	  this generation are not very accurate, nor they are very close to
          the important hotspots.

          Say 'N' here.
	  

> > +static struct temp_sensor_registers
> > +omap34xx_mpu_temp_sensor_registers = {
> > +	.temp_sensor_ctrl = 0,
> > +	.bgap_tempsoff_mask = 0, /* Unused, we don't have POWER_SWITCH */
> > +	.bgap_soc_mask = BIT(8),
> > +	.bgap_eocz_mask = BIT(7),
> > +	.bgap_dtemp_mask = 0x7f,
> > +
> > +	.bgap_mode_ctrl = 0,
> > +	.mode_ctrl_mask = BIT(9),
> > +
> > +	.bgap_efuse = 0,
> 
> The 0'ed filed may be removed here.

Ok; I'll keep temp_sensors_ctrl / bgap_mode_ctrl, because it is actually used.


> > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > index 634b6ce..3b4e72f 100644
> > --- a/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > +++ b/drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
> > @@ -1509,6 +1531,12 @@ static SIMPLE_DEV_PM_OPS(ti_bandgap_dev_pm_ops, ti_bandgap_suspend,
> >  #endif
> >  
> >  static const struct of_device_id of_ti_bandgap_match[] = {
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_OMAP3_THERMAL
> > +	{
> > +		.compatible = "ti,omap34xx-bandgap",
> 
> This needs to be updated in the binding documentation.
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/ti_soc_thermal.txt

Ok.

> > +		.data = (void *)&omap34xx_data,
> 
> 
> Having a run time message intentionally advising users of the risk of
> using this sensor is also required.

Ok, what about?

    if (TI_BANDGAP_HAS(bgp, UNRELIABLE))
              dev_warn(&pdev->dev,
                         "OMAP3 thermal sensor is unreliable and normally unneccessary\n");

Will not fit in 80 columns, but keeping message on one line is more important.
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-03 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-03 11:11 [PATCH] thermal: add omap3 support Pavel Machek
2015-01-03 11:11 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-03 12:34 ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-03 12:34   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-03 22:02   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-01-03 22:02     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-05 21:41     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-05 21:41       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-18 20:28 ` [PATCHv2] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 20:28   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 20:28   ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-13  5:03   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-13  5:03     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-13 19:40     ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-13 19:40       ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-13 12:09   ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-13 12:09     ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-13 16:53     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-13 16:53       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-14 18:02       ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-14 18:02         ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-23 11:25         ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-23 11:25           ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-23 14:31   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-23 14:31     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-23 15:58     ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-23 15:58       ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-23 17:55       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-03-23 17:55         ` Eduardo Valentin

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