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From: boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com (Boris Brezillon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for dumb demuxer chips
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150114200809.0c16baae@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150114185619.GB24989@titan.lakedaemon.net>

Hi Jason,

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:56:19 -0500
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:

> Hey Boris,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 09:52:07PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:00:50 -0500 Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 07:46:18PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > Add documentation for the dumb demuxer.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt   | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..1c777ef
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
> > > > +* Generic Dumb Interrupt Demultiplexer
> > > > +
> > > > +This Dumb demultiplixer simply forward all incoming interrupts to its
> > > > +enabled/unmasked children.
> > > 
> > > Please forgive the potentially na?ve question, but what hardware is this
> > > describing?
> > 
> > That's not a real hardware per se, but on some hardware (like at91 SoCs)
> > some IRQ line are shared by several peripherals, and this dumb
> > demultiplex is here to represent such shared irq lines which cannot be
> > easily demultiplexed (because they do not provide a 'cause'
> > register).
> > 
> > You can see it as a virtual irqchip provided to address broken hardware
> > designs.
> 
> Hmm.  Well, given tglx's recent reply, I suppose I'll *not* go down the
> rabbit hole of "the DT is for describing hardware."  :-P

Actually I'm a bit surprised no one else already mentioned that :-) (I
thought this would be the first complain regarding this dumb irq
demux chip).

Anyway, IMHO, this can be considered as hardware description since
these irq-lines are really multiplexed into a single one...

> 
> However, it would probably be a lot more palatable to the DT maintainers
> if we at least change the compatible to prepend "linux,".  This way, if
> someone does come up with a better solution down the road, it will be
> much easier to deprecate the binding.
> 
> I would also be amenable to "virt,", or "hack,", or even
> "work-around-piss-poor-hw,".  Basically, anything that would indicate to
> consumers of the DT that this is not a true reflection of the hardware,
> and that it may be superseded by a better solution later.

Actually I thought about changing it to "virtual,dumb-irq-demux" :-).

> 
> It would also be helpful to explain the situation more fully in the
> binding document.

Sure, I'll add a few lines to describe what this irqchip really is.

Regards,

Boris

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Nicolas Ferre
	<nicolas.ferre-AIFe0yeh4nAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
	<plagnioj-sclMFOaUSTBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni
	<alexandre.belloni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki"
	<rafael.j.wysocki-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for dumb demuxer chips
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150114200809.0c16baae@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150114185619.GB24989-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>

Hi Jason,

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:56:19 -0500
Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hey Boris,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 09:52:07PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:00:50 -0500 Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 07:46:18PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > Add documentation for the dumb demuxer.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt   | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..1c777ef
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
> > > > +* Generic Dumb Interrupt Demultiplexer
> > > > +
> > > > +This Dumb demultiplixer simply forward all incoming interrupts to its
> > > > +enabled/unmasked children.
> > > 
> > > Please forgive the potentially naïve question, but what hardware is this
> > > describing?
> > 
> > That's not a real hardware per se, but on some hardware (like at91 SoCs)
> > some IRQ line are shared by several peripherals, and this dumb
> > demultiplex is here to represent such shared irq lines which cannot be
> > easily demultiplexed (because they do not provide a 'cause'
> > register).
> > 
> > You can see it as a virtual irqchip provided to address broken hardware
> > designs.
> 
> Hmm.  Well, given tglx's recent reply, I suppose I'll *not* go down the
> rabbit hole of "the DT is for describing hardware."  :-P

Actually I'm a bit surprised no one else already mentioned that :-) (I
thought this would be the first complain regarding this dumb irq
demux chip).

Anyway, IMHO, this can be considered as hardware description since
these irq-lines are really multiplexed into a single one...

> 
> However, it would probably be a lot more palatable to the DT maintainers
> if we at least change the compatible to prepend "linux,".  This way, if
> someone does come up with a better solution down the road, it will be
> much easier to deprecate the binding.
> 
> I would also be amenable to "virt,", or "hack,", or even
> "work-around-piss-poor-hw,".  Basically, anything that would indicate to
> consumers of the DT that this is not a true reflection of the hardware,
> and that it may be superseded by a better solution later.

Actually I thought about changing it to "virtual,dumb-irq-demux" :-).

> 
> It would also be helpful to explain the situation more fully in the
> binding document.

Sure, I'll add a few lines to describe what this irqchip really is.

Regards,

Boris

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for dumb demuxer chips
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150114200809.0c16baae@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150114185619.GB24989@titan.lakedaemon.net>

Hi Jason,

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:56:19 -0500
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:

> Hey Boris,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 09:52:07PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:00:50 -0500 Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 07:46:18PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > Add documentation for the dumb demuxer.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt   | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..1c777ef
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
> > > > +* Generic Dumb Interrupt Demultiplexer
> > > > +
> > > > +This Dumb demultiplixer simply forward all incoming interrupts to its
> > > > +enabled/unmasked children.
> > > 
> > > Please forgive the potentially naïve question, but what hardware is this
> > > describing?
> > 
> > That's not a real hardware per se, but on some hardware (like at91 SoCs)
> > some IRQ line are shared by several peripherals, and this dumb
> > demultiplex is here to represent such shared irq lines which cannot be
> > easily demultiplexed (because they do not provide a 'cause'
> > register).
> > 
> > You can see it as a virtual irqchip provided to address broken hardware
> > designs.
> 
> Hmm.  Well, given tglx's recent reply, I suppose I'll *not* go down the
> rabbit hole of "the DT is for describing hardware."  :-P

Actually I'm a bit surprised no one else already mentioned that :-) (I
thought this would be the first complain regarding this dumb irq
demux chip).

Anyway, IMHO, this can be considered as hardware description since
these irq-lines are really multiplexed into a single one...

> 
> However, it would probably be a lot more palatable to the DT maintainers
> if we at least change the compatible to prepend "linux,".  This way, if
> someone does come up with a better solution down the road, it will be
> much easier to deprecate the binding.
> 
> I would also be amenable to "virt,", or "hack,", or even
> "work-around-piss-poor-hw,".  Basically, anything that would indicate to
> consumers of the DT that this is not a true reflection of the hardware,
> and that it may be superseded by a better solution later.

Actually I thought about changing it to "virtual,dumb-irq-demux" :-).

> 
> It would also be helpful to explain the situation more fully in the
> binding document.

Sure, I'll add a few lines to describe what this irqchip really is.

Regards,

Boris

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-14 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-13 18:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] irqchip: add dumb demultiplexer implementation Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 21:00   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-13 21:00     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-14  8:31     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14  8:31       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14  3:26   ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14  3:26     ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14  3:26     ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14  8:22     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14  8:22       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14  8:22       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 10:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-14 10:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-14 10:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-14 22:24       ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14 22:24         ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14 22:24         ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14 22:55         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 22:55           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 22:55           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-15  9:44           ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15  9:44             ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15  9:44             ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15  9:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-15  9:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-15  9:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-15  9:26           ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15  9:26             ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15  9:26             ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-15 15:40           ` Rob Herring
2015-01-15 15:40             ` Rob Herring
2015-01-15 15:40             ` Rob Herring
2015-01-20 13:08             ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-20 13:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-20 20:07               ` Rob Herring
2015-01-14 13:36   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:36     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:36     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 14:03     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 14:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 14:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 14:43       ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 14:43         ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 14:43         ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-13 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for dumb demuxer chips Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 19:00   ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-13 19:00     ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-13 19:00     ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-13 20:52     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 20:52       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 20:52       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 18:56       ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 18:56         ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 18:56         ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 19:08         ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-01-14 19:08           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 19:08           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 19:33           ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 19:33             ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 19:33             ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-14 13:42   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:42     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:42     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-13 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] ARM: at91/dt: select DUMB_IRQ_DEMUX for all at91 SoCs Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:45   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:45     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:45     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-13 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] ARM: at91/dt: add AIC irq1 muxed peripheral id definitions Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:21   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:21     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:21     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:34     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:34       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:34       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:40       ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:40         ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:40         ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-13 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] ARM: at91/dt: define a dumb irq demultiplexer chip connected on irq1 Boris Brezillon
2015-01-13 18:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-01-14 13:48   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:48     ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-01-14 13:48     ` Nicolas Ferre

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