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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/7] zsmalloc: use shrinker to trigger auto-compaction
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:12:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150707151204.GE1450@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150707150143.GC23003@blaptop>

On (07/08/15 00:01), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > But why would we do this? Yes, it's kinda-sorta bad -- we were not
> > able to register zspool shrinker, so there will be no automatic
> > compaction... And that's it.
> > 
> > It does not affect zsmalloc/zram functionality by any means. Including
> > compaction itself -- user still has a way to compact zspool (manually).
> > And in some scenarios user will never even see automatic compaction in
> > action (assuming that there is a plenty of RAM available).
> > 
> > Can you explain your decision?
> 
> I don't think it would fail in *real practice*.
> Althout it might happen, what does zram could help in that cases?
> 

This argument depends on the current register_shrinker() implementation,
should some one add additional return branch there and it's done.

> If it were failed, it means there is already little memory on the system
> so zram could not be helpful for those environment.
> IOW, zram should be enabled earlier.
> 
> If you want it strongly, please reproduce such failing and prove that
> zram was helpful for the system.

No, thanks. I'll just remove it.

	-ss

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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/7] zsmalloc: use shrinker to trigger auto-compaction
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:12:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150707151204.GE1450@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150707150143.GC23003@blaptop>

On (07/08/15 00:01), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > But why would we do this? Yes, it's kinda-sorta bad -- we were not
> > able to register zspool shrinker, so there will be no automatic
> > compaction... And that's it.
> > 
> > It does not affect zsmalloc/zram functionality by any means. Including
> > compaction itself -- user still has a way to compact zspool (manually).
> > And in some scenarios user will never even see automatic compaction in
> > action (assuming that there is a plenty of RAM available).
> > 
> > Can you explain your decision?
> 
> I don't think it would fail in *real practice*.
> Althout it might happen, what does zram could help in that cases?
> 

This argument depends on the current register_shrinker() implementation,
should some one add additional return branch there and it's done.

> If it were failed, it means there is already little memory on the system
> so zram could not be helpful for those environment.
> IOW, zram should be enabled earlier.
> 
> If you want it strongly, please reproduce such failing and prove that
> zram was helpful for the system.

No, thanks. I'll just remove it.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-07 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-07 11:56 [PATCH v6 0/7] mm/zsmalloc: introduce automatic pool compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] zsmalloc: drop unused variable `nr_to_migrate' Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] zsmalloc: always keep per-class stats Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] zsmalloc: introduce zs_can_compact() function Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 13:21   ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 13:21     ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] zsmalloc: cosmetic compaction code adjustments Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] zsmalloc/zram: introduce zs_pool_stats api Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 13:36   ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 13:36     ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 14:32     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 14:32       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 14:48       ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 14:48         ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 15:02         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 15:02           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] zsmalloc: account the number of compacted pages Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:57   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 13:39   ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 13:39     ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 14:21     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 14:21       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 14:33       ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 14:33         ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] zsmalloc: use shrinker to trigger auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 11:57   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 13:44   ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 13:44     ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 14:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 14:41       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-07 15:01       ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 15:01         ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-07 15:12         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2015-07-07 15:12           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-08  2:18           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-08  2:18             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-08  3:04             ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-08  3:04               ` Minchan Kim
2015-07-08  3:49               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-07-08  3:49                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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