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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pintu Kumar <pintu.k@samsung.com>,
	Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:58:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723105845.GA2660@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507211640480.12650@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 04:47:35PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> > 
> > The zonelist cache (zlc) was introduced to skip over zones that were
> > recently known to be full. At the time the paths it bypassed were the
> > cpuset checks, the watermark calculations and zone_reclaim. The situation
> > today is different and the complexity of zlc is harder to justify.
> > 
> > 1) The cpuset checks are no-ops unless a cpuset is active and in general are
> >    a lot cheaper.
> > 
> > 2) zone_reclaim is now disabled by default and I suspect that was a large
> >    source of the cost that zlc wanted to avoid. When it is enabled, it's
> >    known to be a major source of stalling when nodes fill up and it's
> >    unwise to hit every other user with the overhead.
> > 
> > 3) Watermark checks are expensive to calculate for high-order
> >    allocation requests. Later patches in this series will reduce the cost of
> >    the watermark checking.
> > 
> > 4) The most important issue is that in the current implementation it
> >    is possible for a failed THP allocation to mark a zone full for order-0
> >    allocations and cause a fallback to remote nodes.
> > 
> > The last issue could be addressed with additional complexity but it's
> > not clear that we need zlc at all so this patch deletes it. If stalls
> > due to repeated zone_reclaim are ever reported as an issue then we should
> > introduce deferring logic based on a timeout inside zone_reclaim itself
> > and leave the page allocator fast paths alone.
> > 
> > Impact on page-allocator microbenchmarks is negligible as they don't hit
> > the paths where the zlc comes into play. The impact was noticable in
> > a workload called "stutter". One part uses a lot of anonymous memory,
> > a second measures mmap latency and a third copies a large file. In an
> > ideal world the latency application would not notice the mmap latency.
> > On a 4-node machine the results of this patch are
> > 
> > 4-node machine stutter
> >                              4.2.0-rc1             4.2.0-rc1
> >                                vanilla           nozlc-v1r20
> > Min         mmap     53.9902 (  0.00%)     49.3629 (  8.57%)
> > 1st-qrtle   mmap     54.6776 (  0.00%)     54.1201 (  1.02%)
> > 2nd-qrtle   mmap     54.9242 (  0.00%)     54.5961 (  0.60%)
> > 3rd-qrtle   mmap     55.1817 (  0.00%)     54.9338 (  0.45%)
> > Max-90%     mmap     55.3952 (  0.00%)     55.3929 (  0.00%)
> > Max-93%     mmap     55.4766 (  0.00%)     57.5712 ( -3.78%)
> > Max-95%     mmap     55.5522 (  0.00%)     57.8376 ( -4.11%)
> > Max-99%     mmap     55.7938 (  0.00%)     63.6180 (-14.02%)
> > Max         mmap   6344.0292 (  0.00%)     67.2477 ( 98.94%)
> > Mean        mmap     57.3732 (  0.00%)     54.5680 (  4.89%)
> > 
> > Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> > this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> > benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> > a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> > considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> > 
> >                                  4.1.0       4.1.0
> >                                vanilla  nozlc-v1r4
> > Swap Ins                           838         502
> > Swap Outs                      1149395     2622895
> > DMA32 allocs                  17839113    15863747
> > Normal allocs                129045707   137847920
> > Direct pages scanned           4070089    29046893
> > Kswapd pages scanned          17147837    17140694
> > Kswapd pages reclaimed        17146691    17139601
> > Direct pages reclaimed         1888879     4886630
> > Kswapd efficiency                  99%         99%
> > Kswapd velocity              17523.721   17518.928
> > Direct efficiency                  46%         16%
> > Direct velocity               4159.306   29687.854
> > Percentage direct scans            19%         62%
> > Page writes by reclaim     1149395.000 2622895.000
> > Page writes file                     0           0
> > Page writes anon               1149395     2622895
> > 
> > The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticable. It is possible
> > this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> > zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> > decision.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> 
> I don't use a config that uses cpusets to restrict memory allocation 
> anymore, but it'd be interesting to see the impact that the spinlock and 
> cpuset hierarchy scan has for non-hardwalled allocations.
> 
> This removed the #define MAX_ZONELISTS 1 for UMA configs, which will cause 
> build errors, but once that's fixed:
> 

The build error is now fixed. Thanks.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pintu Kumar <pintu.k@samsung.com>,
	Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:58:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723105845.GA2660@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507211640480.12650@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 04:47:35PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> > 
> > The zonelist cache (zlc) was introduced to skip over zones that were
> > recently known to be full. At the time the paths it bypassed were the
> > cpuset checks, the watermark calculations and zone_reclaim. The situation
> > today is different and the complexity of zlc is harder to justify.
> > 
> > 1) The cpuset checks are no-ops unless a cpuset is active and in general are
> >    a lot cheaper.
> > 
> > 2) zone_reclaim is now disabled by default and I suspect that was a large
> >    source of the cost that zlc wanted to avoid. When it is enabled, it's
> >    known to be a major source of stalling when nodes fill up and it's
> >    unwise to hit every other user with the overhead.
> > 
> > 3) Watermark checks are expensive to calculate for high-order
> >    allocation requests. Later patches in this series will reduce the cost of
> >    the watermark checking.
> > 
> > 4) The most important issue is that in the current implementation it
> >    is possible for a failed THP allocation to mark a zone full for order-0
> >    allocations and cause a fallback to remote nodes.
> > 
> > The last issue could be addressed with additional complexity but it's
> > not clear that we need zlc at all so this patch deletes it. If stalls
> > due to repeated zone_reclaim are ever reported as an issue then we should
> > introduce deferring logic based on a timeout inside zone_reclaim itself
> > and leave the page allocator fast paths alone.
> > 
> > Impact on page-allocator microbenchmarks is negligible as they don't hit
> > the paths where the zlc comes into play. The impact was noticable in
> > a workload called "stutter". One part uses a lot of anonymous memory,
> > a second measures mmap latency and a third copies a large file. In an
> > ideal world the latency application would not notice the mmap latency.
> > On a 4-node machine the results of this patch are
> > 
> > 4-node machine stutter
> >                              4.2.0-rc1             4.2.0-rc1
> >                                vanilla           nozlc-v1r20
> > Min         mmap     53.9902 (  0.00%)     49.3629 (  8.57%)
> > 1st-qrtle   mmap     54.6776 (  0.00%)     54.1201 (  1.02%)
> > 2nd-qrtle   mmap     54.9242 (  0.00%)     54.5961 (  0.60%)
> > 3rd-qrtle   mmap     55.1817 (  0.00%)     54.9338 (  0.45%)
> > Max-90%     mmap     55.3952 (  0.00%)     55.3929 (  0.00%)
> > Max-93%     mmap     55.4766 (  0.00%)     57.5712 ( -3.78%)
> > Max-95%     mmap     55.5522 (  0.00%)     57.8376 ( -4.11%)
> > Max-99%     mmap     55.7938 (  0.00%)     63.6180 (-14.02%)
> > Max         mmap   6344.0292 (  0.00%)     67.2477 ( 98.94%)
> > Mean        mmap     57.3732 (  0.00%)     54.5680 (  4.89%)
> > 
> > Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> > this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> > benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> > a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> > considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> > 
> >                                  4.1.0       4.1.0
> >                                vanilla  nozlc-v1r4
> > Swap Ins                           838         502
> > Swap Outs                      1149395     2622895
> > DMA32 allocs                  17839113    15863747
> > Normal allocs                129045707   137847920
> > Direct pages scanned           4070089    29046893
> > Kswapd pages scanned          17147837    17140694
> > Kswapd pages reclaimed        17146691    17139601
> > Direct pages reclaimed         1888879     4886630
> > Kswapd efficiency                  99%         99%
> > Kswapd velocity              17523.721   17518.928
> > Direct efficiency                  46%         16%
> > Direct velocity               4159.306   29687.854
> > Percentage direct scans            19%         62%
> > Page writes by reclaim     1149395.000 2622895.000
> > Page writes file                     0           0
> > Page writes anon               1149395     2622895
> > 
> > The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticable. It is possible
> > this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> > zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> > decision.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> 
> I don't use a config that uses cpusets to restrict memory allocation 
> anymore, but it'd be interesting to see the impact that the spinlock and 
> cpuset hierarchy scan has for non-hardwalled allocations.
> 
> This removed the #define MAX_ZONELISTS 1 for UMA configs, which will cause 
> build errors, but once that's fixed:
> 

The build error is now fixed. Thanks.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-23 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-20  8:00 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:47   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-21 23:47     ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 10:58     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-07-23 10:58       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary parameter from zone_watermark_ok_safe Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:49   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-21 23:49     ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:20   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:20     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary recalculations for dirty zone balancing Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-22  0:08   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-22  0:08     ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 12:28     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-23 12:28       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 12:25   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:25     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary taking of a seqlock when cpusets are disabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-22  0:11   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-22  0:11     ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:32   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:32     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary updating of GFP flags during normal operation Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:36     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 13:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 15:48     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 15:48       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm, page_alloc: Use jump label to check if page grouping by mobility is enabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm, page_alloc: Use masks and shifts when converting GFP flags to migrate types Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove MIGRATE_RESERVE Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29  9:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29  9:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:25     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:25       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, page_alloc: Reserve pageblocks for high-order atomic allocations on demand Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 11:35   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 11:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:53     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:53       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:28       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31  8:28         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31  8:43         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:43           ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  5:54   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  5:54     ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  7:11     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  7:11       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  7:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31  7:25         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31  8:22         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:22           ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:30         ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  8:30           ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  8:26       ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  8:26         ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  8:41         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:41           ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:25   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:25     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 13:04     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 13:04       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  6:08   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  6:08     ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  7:19     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  7:19       ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  8:40       ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  8:40         ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  6:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  6:14   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31  7:20   ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31  7:20     ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-12 10:45 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v2 Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45   ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:18     ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:42     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:42       ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21  9:29       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21  9:29         ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 13:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:17     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:17       ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:45       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:45         ` Vlastimil Babka

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