From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Pintu Kumar <pintu.k@samsung.com>,
Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:58:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723105845.GA2660@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507211640480.12650@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 04:47:35PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> > From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> >
> > The zonelist cache (zlc) was introduced to skip over zones that were
> > recently known to be full. At the time the paths it bypassed were the
> > cpuset checks, the watermark calculations and zone_reclaim. The situation
> > today is different and the complexity of zlc is harder to justify.
> >
> > 1) The cpuset checks are no-ops unless a cpuset is active and in general are
> > a lot cheaper.
> >
> > 2) zone_reclaim is now disabled by default and I suspect that was a large
> > source of the cost that zlc wanted to avoid. When it is enabled, it's
> > known to be a major source of stalling when nodes fill up and it's
> > unwise to hit every other user with the overhead.
> >
> > 3) Watermark checks are expensive to calculate for high-order
> > allocation requests. Later patches in this series will reduce the cost of
> > the watermark checking.
> >
> > 4) The most important issue is that in the current implementation it
> > is possible for a failed THP allocation to mark a zone full for order-0
> > allocations and cause a fallback to remote nodes.
> >
> > The last issue could be addressed with additional complexity but it's
> > not clear that we need zlc at all so this patch deletes it. If stalls
> > due to repeated zone_reclaim are ever reported as an issue then we should
> > introduce deferring logic based on a timeout inside zone_reclaim itself
> > and leave the page allocator fast paths alone.
> >
> > Impact on page-allocator microbenchmarks is negligible as they don't hit
> > the paths where the zlc comes into play. The impact was noticable in
> > a workload called "stutter". One part uses a lot of anonymous memory,
> > a second measures mmap latency and a third copies a large file. In an
> > ideal world the latency application would not notice the mmap latency.
> > On a 4-node machine the results of this patch are
> >
> > 4-node machine stutter
> > 4.2.0-rc1 4.2.0-rc1
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r20
> > Min mmap 53.9902 ( 0.00%) 49.3629 ( 8.57%)
> > 1st-qrtle mmap 54.6776 ( 0.00%) 54.1201 ( 1.02%)
> > 2nd-qrtle mmap 54.9242 ( 0.00%) 54.5961 ( 0.60%)
> > 3rd-qrtle mmap 55.1817 ( 0.00%) 54.9338 ( 0.45%)
> > Max-90% mmap 55.3952 ( 0.00%) 55.3929 ( 0.00%)
> > Max-93% mmap 55.4766 ( 0.00%) 57.5712 ( -3.78%)
> > Max-95% mmap 55.5522 ( 0.00%) 57.8376 ( -4.11%)
> > Max-99% mmap 55.7938 ( 0.00%) 63.6180 (-14.02%)
> > Max mmap 6344.0292 ( 0.00%) 67.2477 ( 98.94%)
> > Mean mmap 57.3732 ( 0.00%) 54.5680 ( 4.89%)
> >
> > Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> > this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> > benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> > a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> > considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> >
> > 4.1.0 4.1.0
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r4
> > Swap Ins 838 502
> > Swap Outs 1149395 2622895
> > DMA32 allocs 17839113 15863747
> > Normal allocs 129045707 137847920
> > Direct pages scanned 4070089 29046893
> > Kswapd pages scanned 17147837 17140694
> > Kswapd pages reclaimed 17146691 17139601
> > Direct pages reclaimed 1888879 4886630
> > Kswapd efficiency 99% 99%
> > Kswapd velocity 17523.721 17518.928
> > Direct efficiency 46% 16%
> > Direct velocity 4159.306 29687.854
> > Percentage direct scans 19% 62%
> > Page writes by reclaim 1149395.000 2622895.000
> > Page writes file 0 0
> > Page writes anon 1149395 2622895
> >
> > The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticable. It is possible
> > this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> > zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> > decision.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
>
> I don't use a config that uses cpusets to restrict memory allocation
> anymore, but it'd be interesting to see the impact that the spinlock and
> cpuset hierarchy scan has for non-hardwalled allocations.
>
> This removed the #define MAX_ZONELISTS 1 for UMA configs, which will cause
> build errors, but once that's fixed:
>
The build error is now fixed. Thanks.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Pintu Kumar <pintu.k@samsung.com>,
Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:58:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723105845.GA2660@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507211640480.12650@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 04:47:35PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> > From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> >
> > The zonelist cache (zlc) was introduced to skip over zones that were
> > recently known to be full. At the time the paths it bypassed were the
> > cpuset checks, the watermark calculations and zone_reclaim. The situation
> > today is different and the complexity of zlc is harder to justify.
> >
> > 1) The cpuset checks are no-ops unless a cpuset is active and in general are
> > a lot cheaper.
> >
> > 2) zone_reclaim is now disabled by default and I suspect that was a large
> > source of the cost that zlc wanted to avoid. When it is enabled, it's
> > known to be a major source of stalling when nodes fill up and it's
> > unwise to hit every other user with the overhead.
> >
> > 3) Watermark checks are expensive to calculate for high-order
> > allocation requests. Later patches in this series will reduce the cost of
> > the watermark checking.
> >
> > 4) The most important issue is that in the current implementation it
> > is possible for a failed THP allocation to mark a zone full for order-0
> > allocations and cause a fallback to remote nodes.
> >
> > The last issue could be addressed with additional complexity but it's
> > not clear that we need zlc at all so this patch deletes it. If stalls
> > due to repeated zone_reclaim are ever reported as an issue then we should
> > introduce deferring logic based on a timeout inside zone_reclaim itself
> > and leave the page allocator fast paths alone.
> >
> > Impact on page-allocator microbenchmarks is negligible as they don't hit
> > the paths where the zlc comes into play. The impact was noticable in
> > a workload called "stutter". One part uses a lot of anonymous memory,
> > a second measures mmap latency and a third copies a large file. In an
> > ideal world the latency application would not notice the mmap latency.
> > On a 4-node machine the results of this patch are
> >
> > 4-node machine stutter
> > 4.2.0-rc1 4.2.0-rc1
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r20
> > Min mmap 53.9902 ( 0.00%) 49.3629 ( 8.57%)
> > 1st-qrtle mmap 54.6776 ( 0.00%) 54.1201 ( 1.02%)
> > 2nd-qrtle mmap 54.9242 ( 0.00%) 54.5961 ( 0.60%)
> > 3rd-qrtle mmap 55.1817 ( 0.00%) 54.9338 ( 0.45%)
> > Max-90% mmap 55.3952 ( 0.00%) 55.3929 ( 0.00%)
> > Max-93% mmap 55.4766 ( 0.00%) 57.5712 ( -3.78%)
> > Max-95% mmap 55.5522 ( 0.00%) 57.8376 ( -4.11%)
> > Max-99% mmap 55.7938 ( 0.00%) 63.6180 (-14.02%)
> > Max mmap 6344.0292 ( 0.00%) 67.2477 ( 98.94%)
> > Mean mmap 57.3732 ( 0.00%) 54.5680 ( 4.89%)
> >
> > Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> > this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> > benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> > a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> > considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> >
> > 4.1.0 4.1.0
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r4
> > Swap Ins 838 502
> > Swap Outs 1149395 2622895
> > DMA32 allocs 17839113 15863747
> > Normal allocs 129045707 137847920
> > Direct pages scanned 4070089 29046893
> > Kswapd pages scanned 17147837 17140694
> > Kswapd pages reclaimed 17146691 17139601
> > Direct pages reclaimed 1888879 4886630
> > Kswapd efficiency 99% 99%
> > Kswapd velocity 17523.721 17518.928
> > Direct efficiency 46% 16%
> > Direct velocity 4159.306 29687.854
> > Percentage direct scans 19% 62%
> > Page writes by reclaim 1149395.000 2622895.000
> > Page writes file 0 0
> > Page writes anon 1149395 2622895
> >
> > The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticable. It is possible
> > this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> > zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> > decision.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
>
> I don't use a config that uses cpusets to restrict memory allocation
> anymore, but it'd be interesting to see the impact that the spinlock and
> cpuset hierarchy scan has for non-hardwalled allocations.
>
> This removed the #define MAX_ZONELISTS 1 for UMA configs, which will cause
> build errors, but once that's fixed:
>
The build error is now fixed. Thanks.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-23 10:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-20 8:00 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:47 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-21 23:47 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 10:58 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-07-23 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary parameter from zone_watermark_ok_safe Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:49 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-21 23:49 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary recalculations for dirty zone balancing Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-22 0:08 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-22 0:08 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-23 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary taking of a seqlock when cpusets are disabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-22 0:11 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-22 0:11 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 12:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary updating of GFP flags during normal operation Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm, page_alloc: Use jump label to check if page grouping by mobility is enabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm, page_alloc: Use masks and shifts when converting GFP flags to migrate types Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove MIGRATE_RESERVE Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 9:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 9:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, page_alloc: Reserve pageblocks for high-order atomic allocations on demand Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 11:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 11:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:28 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 8:28 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 8:43 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:43 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 5:54 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 5:54 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 7:11 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 7:11 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 7:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 7:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 8:22 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:22 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:30 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:30 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:26 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:26 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:41 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:41 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 6:08 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 6:08 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 7:19 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 7:19 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:40 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:40 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 6:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 6:14 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 7:20 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 7:20 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-12 10:45 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v2 Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:42 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:42 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:17 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:17 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
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