From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:17:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150820141720.GE12432@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D5D68E.6040206@suse.cz>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> >this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> >benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> >a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> >considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> >
> > 4.1.0 4.1.0
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r4
> >Swap Ins 838 502
> >Swap Outs 1149395 2622895
> >DMA32 allocs 17839113 15863747
> >Normal allocs 129045707 137847920
> >Direct pages scanned 4070089 29046893
> >Kswapd pages scanned 17147837 17140694
> >Kswapd pages reclaimed 17146691 17139601
> >Direct pages reclaimed 1888879 4886630
> >Kswapd efficiency 99% 99%
> >Kswapd velocity 17523.721 17518.928
> >Direct efficiency 46% 16%
> >Direct velocity 4159.306 29687.854
> >Percentage direct scans 19% 62%
> >Page writes by reclaim 1149395.000 2622895.000
> >Page writes file 0 0
> >Page writes anon 1149395 2622895
>
> Interesting, kswapd has no decrease that would counter the increase in
> direct reclaim. So there's more reclaim overall. Does it mean that stutter
> doesn't like LRU and zlc was disrupting LRU?
>
The LRU is being heavily disrupted by both reclaim and compaction
activity. The test is not a reliable means of evaluating reclaim decisions
because of the compaction activity. The main purpose of stutter was as a
proxy measure of desktop interactivity during IO.
As the test does THP allocations, it can trigger the case where zlc can
disable a zone for no reason and instead busy loop which is just wrong.
> >The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticeable. It is possible
> >this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> >zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> >decision.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> >Acked-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
>
> It doesn't seem that removal of zlc would increase overhead due to
> "expensive operations no longer being avoided". Making some corner-case
> benchmark(s) worse as a side-effect of different LRU approximation shouldn't
> be a show-stopper. Hence
>
> Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>
Thanks.
> just git grep found some lines that should be also deleted:
>
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * If zlcache_ptr is not NULL, then it is just the
> address of zlcache,
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * as explained above. If zlcache_ptr is NULL, there
> is no zlcache.
>
Thanks
> And:
>
> >@@ -3157,7 +2967,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > gfp_t alloc_mask; /* The gfp_t that was actually used for allocation */
> > struct alloc_context ac = {
> > .high_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask),
> >- .nodemask = nodemask,
> >+ .nodemask = nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> > .migratetype = gfpflags_to_migratetype(gfp_mask),
> > };
> >
> >@@ -3188,8 +2998,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > ac.zonelist = zonelist;
> > /* The preferred zone is used for statistics later */
> > preferred_zoneref = first_zones_zonelist(ac.zonelist, ac.high_zoneidx,
> >- ac.nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> >- &ac.preferred_zone);
> >+ ac.nodemask, &ac.preferred_zone);
> > if (!ac.preferred_zone)
> > goto out;
> > ac.classzone_idx = zonelist_zone_idx(preferred_zoneref);
>
> These hunks appear unrelated to zonelist cache? Also they move the
> evaluation of cpuset_current_mems_allowed
They are rebase-related brain damage :(. I'll fix it and retest.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:17:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150820141720.GE12432@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D5D68E.6040206@suse.cz>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> >this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> >benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> >a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> >considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> >
> > 4.1.0 4.1.0
> > vanilla nozlc-v1r4
> >Swap Ins 838 502
> >Swap Outs 1149395 2622895
> >DMA32 allocs 17839113 15863747
> >Normal allocs 129045707 137847920
> >Direct pages scanned 4070089 29046893
> >Kswapd pages scanned 17147837 17140694
> >Kswapd pages reclaimed 17146691 17139601
> >Direct pages reclaimed 1888879 4886630
> >Kswapd efficiency 99% 99%
> >Kswapd velocity 17523.721 17518.928
> >Direct efficiency 46% 16%
> >Direct velocity 4159.306 29687.854
> >Percentage direct scans 19% 62%
> >Page writes by reclaim 1149395.000 2622895.000
> >Page writes file 0 0
> >Page writes anon 1149395 2622895
>
> Interesting, kswapd has no decrease that would counter the increase in
> direct reclaim. So there's more reclaim overall. Does it mean that stutter
> doesn't like LRU and zlc was disrupting LRU?
>
The LRU is being heavily disrupted by both reclaim and compaction
activity. The test is not a reliable means of evaluating reclaim decisions
because of the compaction activity. The main purpose of stutter was as a
proxy measure of desktop interactivity during IO.
As the test does THP allocations, it can trigger the case where zlc can
disable a zone for no reason and instead busy loop which is just wrong.
> >The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticeable. It is possible
> >this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> >zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> >decision.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> >Acked-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
>
> It doesn't seem that removal of zlc would increase overhead due to
> "expensive operations no longer being avoided". Making some corner-case
> benchmark(s) worse as a side-effect of different LRU approximation shouldn't
> be a show-stopper. Hence
>
> Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>
Thanks.
> just git grep found some lines that should be also deleted:
>
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * If zlcache_ptr is not NULL, then it is just the
> address of zlcache,
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * as explained above. If zlcache_ptr is NULL, there
> is no zlcache.
>
Thanks
> And:
>
> >@@ -3157,7 +2967,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > gfp_t alloc_mask; /* The gfp_t that was actually used for allocation */
> > struct alloc_context ac = {
> > .high_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask),
> >- .nodemask = nodemask,
> >+ .nodemask = nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> > .migratetype = gfpflags_to_migratetype(gfp_mask),
> > };
> >
> >@@ -3188,8 +2998,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > ac.zonelist = zonelist;
> > /* The preferred zone is used for statistics later */
> > preferred_zoneref = first_zones_zonelist(ac.zonelist, ac.high_zoneidx,
> >- ac.nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> >- &ac.preferred_zone);
> >+ ac.nodemask, &ac.preferred_zone);
> > if (!ac.preferred_zone)
> > goto out;
> > ac.classzone_idx = zonelist_zone_idx(preferred_zoneref);
>
> These hunks appear unrelated to zonelist cache? Also they move the
> evaluation of cpuset_current_mems_allowed
They are rebase-related brain damage :(. I'll fix it and retest.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-20 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-12 10:45 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v2 Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:42 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:42 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:17 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-08-20 14:17 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary parameter from zone_watermark_ok_safe Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary recalculations for dirty zone balancing Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary taking of a seqlock when cpusets are disabled Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-13 0:16 ` David Rientjes
2015-08-13 0:16 ` David Rientjes
2015-08-17 11:58 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-17 11:58 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: Use masks and shifts when converting GFP flags to migrate types Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 14:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-12 14:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: page_alloc: Distinguish between being unable to sleep, unwilling to unwilling and avoiding waking kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-12 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 14:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-19 14:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 9:14 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 9:14 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 20:39 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 20:39 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: page_alloc: Rename __GFP_WAIT to __GFP_RECLAIM Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:28 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:28 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 14:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 14:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 20:56 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 20:56 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove MIGRATE_RESERVE Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, page_alloc: Reserve pageblocks for high-order atomic allocations on demand Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-20 8:00 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:47 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-21 23:47 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-23 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
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