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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:33:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151007143325.GF3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151007075114.GW2881@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 09:51:14AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 01:58:50PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:29:37PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:29:21AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > +static void __maybe_unused rcu_report_exp_rnp(struct rcu_state *rsp,
> > > > +					      struct rcu_node *rnp, bool wake)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	unsigned long flags;
> > > > +	unsigned long mask;
> > > > +
> > > > +	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rnp->lock, flags);
> > > 
> > > Normally we require a comment with barriers, explaining the order and
> > > the pairing etc.. :-)
> > > 
> > > > +	smp_mb__after_unlock_lock();
> > 
> > Hmmmm...  That is not good.
> > 
> > Worse yet, I am missing comments on most of the pre-existing barriers
> > of this form.
> 
> Yes I noticed.. :/

Will fix, though probably as a follow-up patch.  Once I figure out what
comment makes sense...

> > The purpose is to enforce the heavy-weight grace-period memory-ordering
> > guarantees documented in the synchronize_sched() header comment and
> > elsewhere.
> 
> > They pair with anything you might use to check for violation
> > of these guarantees, or, simiarly, any ordering that you might use when
> > relying on these guarantees.
> 
> I'm sure you know what that means, but I've no clue ;-) That is, I
> wouldn't know where to start looking in the RCU implementation to verify
> the barrier is either needed or sufficient. Unless you mean _everywhere_
> :-)

Pretty much everywhere.

Let's take the usual RCU removal pattern as an example:

	void f1(struct foo *p)
	{
		list_del_rcu(p);
		synchronize_rcu_expedited();
		kfree(p);
	}

	void f2(void)
	{
		struct foo *p;

		list_for_each_entry_rcu(p, &my_head, next)
			do_something_with(p);
	}

So the synchronize_rcu_expedited() acts as an extremely heavyweight
memory barrier that pairs with the rcu_dereference() inside of
list_for_each_entry_rcu().  Easy enough, right?

But what exactly within synchronize_rcu_expedited() provides the
ordering?  The answer is a web of lock-based critical sections and
explicit memory barriers, with the one you called out as needing
a comment being one of them.

> > I could add something like  "/* Enforce GP memory ordering. */"
> > 
> > Or perhaps "/* See synchronize_sched() header. */"
> > 
> > I do not propose reproducing the synchronize_sched() header on each
> > of these.  That would be verbose, even for me!  ;-)
> > 
> > Other thoughts?
> 
> Well, this is an UNLOCK+LOCK on non-matching lock variables upgrade to
> full barrier thing, right?

Yep!

> To me its not clear which UNLOCK we even match here. I've just read the
> sync_sched() header, but that doesn't help me either, so referring to
> that isn't really helpful either.

Usually this pairs with an rcu_dereference() somewhere in the calling
code.  Some other task in the calling code, actually.

> In any case, I don't want to make too big a fuzz here, but I just
> stumbled over a lot of unannotated barriers and figured I ought to say
> something about it.

I do need to better document how this works, no two ways about it.

							Thanx, Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:29 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/18] Expedited grace-period improvements for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/18] rcu: Use rsp->expedited_wq instead of sync_rcu_preempt_exp_wq Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07  8:42           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-07 11:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 11:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:05                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:09                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:11                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:44                     ` [kbuild-all] " Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 13:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:21                         ` Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 14:28                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:18                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 10:24                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:15               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:33           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-10-07 14:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 17:12                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 17:46                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  0:10                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  8:44                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/18] rcu: Consolidate tree setup for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/18] rcu: Use single-stage IPI algorithm for RCU expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 18:11       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/18] rcu: Move synchronize_sched_expedited() to combining tree Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/18] rcu: Rename qs_pending to core_needs_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/18] rcu: Invert passed_quiesce and rename to cpu_no_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/18] rcu: Make ->cpu_no_qs be a union for aggregate OR Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/18] rcu: Switch synchronize_sched_expedited() to IPI Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/18] rcu: Stop silencing lockdep false positive for expedited grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/18] rcu: Stop excluding CPU hotplug in synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/18] cpu: Remove try_get_online_cpus() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/18] rcu: Prepare for consolidating expedited CPU selection Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/18] rcu: Consolidate " Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/18] rcu: Add online/offline info to expedited stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/18] rcu: Add tasks to expedited stall-warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/18] rcu: Enable stall warnings for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/18] rcu: Better hotplug handling for synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:06           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 15:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:19               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 18:01                 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09  0:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  0:48                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09  3:54                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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