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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Kevin Kang <kkang@intrinsyc.com>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	wangfei <w.f@huawei.com>, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/10] PM / Hibernate: Publish pages restored in-place to arch code
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:19:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151208081923.GA22680@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56656D6C.5010004@arm.com>

Hi!

> > Umm. Could the copy function be modified to do the neccessary
> > flushing, instead?
> 
> The copying is done by load_image_lzo() using memcpy() if you have
> compression enabled, and by load_image() using swap_read_page() if you
> don't.
> 
> I didn't do it here as it would clean every page copied, which was the
> worrying part of the previous approach. If there is an architecture
> where this cache-clean operation is expensive, it would slow down
> restore. I was trying to benchmark the impact of this on 32bit arm when
> I spotted it was broken.

You have just loaded the page from slow storage (hard drive,
MMC). Cleaning a page should be pretty fast compared to that.

> This allocated-same-page code path doesn't happen very often, so we
> don't want this to have an impact on the 'normal' code path. On 32bit
> arm I saw ~20 of these allocations out of ~60,000 pages.
> 
> This new way allocates a few extra pages during restore, and doesn't
> assume that flush_cache_range() needs calling. It should have no impact
> on architectures that aren't using the new list.

It is also complex.

> > Alternatively, can you just clean the whole cache before jumping to
> > the new kernel?
> 
> On arm64, cleaning the whole cache means cleaning all of memory by
> virtual address, which would be a high price to pay when we only need to
> clean the pages we copied. The current implementation does clean all

How high price to pay? I mean, hibernation/restore takes
_seconds_. Paying miliseconds to have cleaner code is acceptable
price.


									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 09/10] PM / Hibernate: Publish pages restored in-place to arch code
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:19:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151208081923.GA22680@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56656D6C.5010004@arm.com>

Hi!

> > Umm. Could the copy function be modified to do the neccessary
> > flushing, instead?
> 
> The copying is done by load_image_lzo() using memcpy() if you have
> compression enabled, and by load_image() using swap_read_page() if you
> don't.
> 
> I didn't do it here as it would clean every page copied, which was the
> worrying part of the previous approach. If there is an architecture
> where this cache-clean operation is expensive, it would slow down
> restore. I was trying to benchmark the impact of this on 32bit arm when
> I spotted it was broken.

You have just loaded the page from slow storage (hard drive,
MMC). Cleaning a page should be pretty fast compared to that.

> This allocated-same-page code path doesn't happen very often, so we
> don't want this to have an impact on the 'normal' code path. On 32bit
> arm I saw ~20 of these allocations out of ~60,000 pages.
> 
> This new way allocates a few extra pages during restore, and doesn't
> assume that flush_cache_range() needs calling. It should have no impact
> on architectures that aren't using the new list.

It is also complex.

> > Alternatively, can you just clean the whole cache before jumping to
> > the new kernel?
> 
> On arm64, cleaning the whole cache means cleaning all of memory by
> virtual address, which would be a high price to pay when we only need to
> clean the pages we copied. The current implementation does clean all

How high price to pay? I mean, hibernation/restore takes
_seconds_. Paying miliseconds to have cleaner code is acceptable
price.


									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-08  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-26 17:32 [PATCH v3 00/10] arm64: kernel: Add support for hibernate/suspend-to-disk James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] arm64: Fold proc-macros.S into assembler.h James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-12-01  9:18   ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-01  9:18     ` Pavel Machek
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] arm64: Convert hcalls to use HVC immediate value James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] arm64: Add new hcall HVC_CALL_FUNC James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] arm64: kvm: allows kvm cpu hotplug James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] arm64: kernel: Rework finisher callback out of __cpu_suspend_enter() James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] arm64: Change cpu_resume() to enable mmu early then access sleep_sp by va James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] arm64: kernel: Include _AC definition in page.h James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-12-01  9:28   ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-01  9:28     ` Pavel Machek
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] arm64: Promote KERNEL_START/KERNEL_END definitions to a header file James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-12-01  9:28   ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-01  9:28     ` Pavel Machek
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] PM / Hibernate: Publish pages restored in-place to arch code James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-12-03 12:09   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-03 12:09     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-04 16:26     ` James Morse
2015-12-04 16:26       ` James Morse
2015-12-05  9:35   ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-05  9:35     ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-07 11:28     ` James Morse
2015-12-07 11:28       ` James Morse
2015-12-08  8:19       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-12-08  8:19         ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-16  9:55         ` James Morse
2015-12-16  9:55           ` James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] arm64: kernel: Add support for hibernate/suspend-to-disk James Morse
2015-11-26 17:32   ` James Morse
2015-12-01  9:31   ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-01  9:31     ` Pavel Machek
2015-12-08 10:39     ` James Morse
2015-12-08 10:39       ` James Morse
2015-12-08 11:48   ` [PATCH] fixup! " James Morse
2015-12-08 11:48     ` James Morse
2015-12-15 17:42   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] " Catalin Marinas
2015-12-15 17:42     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-18 11:37 ` [ALT-PATCH v3 9/10] PM / Hibernate: Call flush_icache_range() on pages restored in-place James Morse
2015-12-18 11:37   ` James Morse

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