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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 2/3] zram: use zs_get_huge_class_size_watermark()
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:05:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160222020547.GC488@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222015912.GA488@swordfish>

On (02/22/16 10:59), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
[..]
> > > > Having said that, I agree your claim that uncompressible pages
> > > > are pain. I want to handle the problem as multiple-swap apparoach.
> > > 
> > > zram is not just for swapping. as simple as that.
> > 
> > Yes, I mean if we have backing storage, we could mitigate the problem
> > like the mentioned approach. Otherwise, we should solve it in allocator
> > itself and you suggested the idea and I commented first step.
> > What's the problem, now?
> 
> well, I didn't say I have problems.
> so you want a backing device that will keep only 'bad compression'
> objects and use zsmalloc to keep there only 'good compression' objects?
> IOW, no huge classes in zsmalloc at all?

hm, in the worst case we can have _for example_ 80+% of writes to be 'bad
compression'. that turns zsmalloc into a 3rd wheel, and makes it almost
unneeded. hm, may be it's better for now to fix zsmalloc-zram pair.

	-ss

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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 2/3] zram: use zs_get_huge_class_size_watermark()
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:05:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160222020547.GC488@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222015912.GA488@swordfish>

On (02/22/16 10:59), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
[..]
> > > > Having said that, I agree your claim that uncompressible pages
> > > > are pain. I want to handle the problem as multiple-swap apparoach.
> > > 
> > > zram is not just for swapping. as simple as that.
> > 
> > Yes, I mean if we have backing storage, we could mitigate the problem
> > like the mentioned approach. Otherwise, we should solve it in allocator
> > itself and you suggested the idea and I commented first step.
> > What's the problem, now?
> 
> well, I didn't say I have problems.
> so you want a backing device that will keep only 'bad compression'
> objects and use zsmalloc to keep there only 'good compression' objects?
> IOW, no huge classes in zsmalloc at all?

hm, in the worst case we can have _for example_ 80+% of writes to be 'bad
compression'. that turns zsmalloc into a 3rd wheel, and makes it almost
unneeded. hm, may be it's better for now to fix zsmalloc-zram pair.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-22  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-21 13:27 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/3] mm/zsmalloc: increase objects density and reduce memory wastage Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/3] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_get_huge_class_size_watermark() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/3] zram: use zs_get_huge_class_size_watermark() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  0:04   ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  0:04     ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  0:40     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  0:40       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  1:27       ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  1:27         ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  1:59         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  1:59           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:05           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-02-22  2:05             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:57           ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  2:57             ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  3:54             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  3:54               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  4:54               ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  4:54                 ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  5:05                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  5:05                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/3] mm/zsmalloc: increase ZS_MAX_PAGES_PER_ZSPAGE Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-21 13:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  0:25   ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  0:25     ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  0:47     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  0:47       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  1:34       ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  1:34         ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  2:01         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:01           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:34           ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  2:34             ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  3:59             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  3:59               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  4:41               ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22  4:41                 ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-22 10:43                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22 10:43                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-23  8:25                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-23  8:25                     ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-23 10:35                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-23 10:35                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-23 16:05                       ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-23 16:05                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-02-27  6:31                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-27  6:31                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:24         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-22  2:24           ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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