From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kmap_atomic and preemption
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 11:37:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160505093707.GL3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504191755.GV19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 08:17:55PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 03:47:29PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Traditionally kmap_atomic() disables preemption; and the reason is that
> > the returned pointer must stay valid. This had a side effect in that it
> > also disabled pagefaults.
>
> A lowmem page should never change its page_address(), so that much is
> safe.
Agreed..
> I think the question is whether there is any driver code which
> assumes that preemption is unconditionally disabled between a
> kmap_atomic() has been called.
right, this and consistency. Having the function disable preemption
sometimes is just plain weird.
> That wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption given the name of the
> function, so I'd suggest caution with making kmap_atomic() have these
> kinds of differing behaviours depending on whether we're asking to
> kmap a high or lowmem page.
So for -rt I did a preemptible kmap_atomic() for x86 (and maybe someone
did other archs too, I cannot remember), now -rt is funny wrt locking
anyway, but I cannot remember anything breaking because of this, so
there is some hope it will actually work.
> If we are going to allow this, I think it at least needs to be well
> documented.
Indeed.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kmap_atomic and preemption
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 11:37:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160505093707.GL3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20160505093707.A3xsBn4Pl6qglIbQxVpjgDjXANosSyTZni2CS-gSpgA@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504191755.GV19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 08:17:55PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 03:47:29PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Traditionally kmap_atomic() disables preemption; and the reason is that
> > the returned pointer must stay valid. This had a side effect in that it
> > also disabled pagefaults.
>
> A lowmem page should never change its page_address(), so that much is
> safe.
Agreed..
> I think the question is whether there is any driver code which
> assumes that preemption is unconditionally disabled between a
> kmap_atomic() has been called.
right, this and consistency. Having the function disable preemption
sometimes is just plain weird.
> That wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption given the name of the
> function, so I'd suggest caution with making kmap_atomic() have these
> kinds of differing behaviours depending on whether we're asking to
> kmap a high or lowmem page.
So for -rt I did a preemptible kmap_atomic() for x86 (and maybe someone
did other archs too, I cannot remember), now -rt is funny wrt locking
anyway, but I cannot remember anything breaking because of this, so
there is some hope it will actually work.
> If we are going to allow this, I think it at least needs to be well
> documented.
Indeed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-05 9:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-04 10:37 kmap_atomic and preemption Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 10:37 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-04 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-04 13:53 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-05-04 13:53 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-05-04 14:01 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 14:01 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 14:16 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 14:16 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-04 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-05 12:37 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-05 12:37 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-05-04 19:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-04 19:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-05 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-05-05 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
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