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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hari Bathini <hbathini@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fadump: Register the memory reserved by fadump
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:10:56 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810064056.GB24800@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1lhtb3s.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

> 
> > Conceptually it would be cleaner, if expensive, to calculate the real
> > memblock reserves if HASH_EARLY and ditch the dma_reserve, memory_reserve
> > and nr_kernel_pages entirely.
> 
> Why is it expensive? memblock tracks the totals for all memory and
> reserved memory AFAIK, so it should just be a case of subtracting one
> from the other?

Are you suggesting that we use something like
memblock_phys_mem_size() but one which returns
memblock.reserved.total_size ? Maybe a new function like
memblock_reserved_mem_size()?

> 
> > Unfortuantely, aside from the calculation,
> > there is a potential cost due to a smaller hash table that affects everyone,
> > not just ppc64.
> 
> Yeah OK. We could make it an arch hook, or controlled by a CONFIG.

If its based on memblock.reserved.total_size, then should it be arch
specific?

> 
> > However, if the hash table is meant to be sized on the
> > number of available pages then it really should be based on that and not
> > just a made-up number.
> 
> Yeah that seems to make sense.
> 
> The one complication I think is that we may have memory that's marked
> reserved in memblock, but is later freed to the page allocator (eg.
> initrd).

Yes, this is a possibility, for example lets say we want fadump to
continue to run instead of rebooting to a new kernel as it does today.

> 
> I'm not sure if that's actually a concern in practice given the relative
> size of the initrd and memory on most systems. But possibly there are
> other things that get reserved and then freed which could skew the hash
> table size calculation.
> 

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju

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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hari Bathini <hbathini@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fadump: Register the memory reserved by fadump
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:10:56 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810064056.GB24800@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1lhtb3s.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

> 
> > Conceptually it would be cleaner, if expensive, to calculate the real
> > memblock reserves if HASH_EARLY and ditch the dma_reserve, memory_reserve
> > and nr_kernel_pages entirely.
> 
> Why is it expensive? memblock tracks the totals for all memory and
> reserved memory AFAIK, so it should just be a case of subtracting one
> from the other?

Are you suggesting that we use something like
memblock_phys_mem_size() but one which returns
memblock.reserved.total_size ? Maybe a new function like
memblock_reserved_mem_size()?

> 
> > Unfortuantely, aside from the calculation,
> > there is a potential cost due to a smaller hash table that affects everyone,
> > not just ppc64.
> 
> Yeah OK. We could make it an arch hook, or controlled by a CONFIG.

If its based on memblock.reserved.total_size, then should it be arch
specific?

> 
> > However, if the hash table is meant to be sized on the
> > number of available pages then it really should be based on that and not
> > just a made-up number.
> 
> Yeah that seems to make sense.
> 
> The one complication I think is that we may have memory that's marked
> reserved in memblock, but is later freed to the page allocator (eg.
> initrd).

Yes, this is a possibility, for example lets say we want fadump to
continue to run instead of rebooting to a new kernel as it does today.

> 
> I'm not sure if that's actually a concern in practice given the relative
> size of the initrd and memory on most systems. But possibly there are
> other things that get reserved and then freed which could skew the hash
> table size calculation.
> 

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 13:42 [PATCH] fadump: Register the memory reserved by fadump Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-04 13:42 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-04 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-04 14:09   ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-04 15:27   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-04 15:27     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-05  7:07 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05  7:07   ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05  7:28   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-05  7:28     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-05  9:25     ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05  9:25       ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05 10:06       ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-05 10:06         ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-10  6:02         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10  6:02           ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10  6:40           ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2016-08-10  6:40             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-10  6:57             ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10  6:57               ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10  9:21               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-10  9:21                 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-10  7:51           ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-10  7:51             ` Mel Gorman

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