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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Signature management - keys, modules, firmware, was: Last minute nominations: mcgrof and toshi
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:42:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160812131259.GP9681@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVy8edVwuCcWT9Dkvr0xY0fAm8KsU-=xzoBxF_pu9iADw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 05:54:25AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Aug 12, 2016 3:30 PM, "Vinod Koul" <vinod.koul@intel.com> wrote:
> > One more point worth mentioning here...
> >
> > Whatever solution we decide, some firmware is already signed. Some of
> > the Intel firmware we submit to linux-firmware is signed and a firmware
> > with bad or unsigned keys will fail to load on these devices. Now how
> > much we are willing to trust that is entirely different question.
> >
> > Any solution needs to comprehend that additional signing might be
> > present.
> 
> I see device-verified signatures as orthogonal: the kernel loads a blob,
> optionally verifies the blob, and that blob just happens to contain a
> signature.

In that case we should not optionally verify. But if we trust vendors
sign, we don't need to verify..

-- 
~Vinod

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-12 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04 15:26 [Ksummit-discuss] Last minute nominations: mcgrof and toshi Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-04 22:20 ` Toshi Kani
2016-07-15 19:50 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-15 19:57   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-16  0:52     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-26 14:42       ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 14:04         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Signature management - keys, modules, firmware, was: " Jason Cooper
2016-07-27 14:08           ` David Howells
2016-07-27 14:10             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-27 14:23               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 14:58           ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-27 18:17           ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-07-27 18:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-29 12:29           ` Ben Hutchings
2016-08-05 17:16             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-05 18:24               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-08-02 12:54           ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-02 14:00             ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-02 14:09               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrUjn7TeGbS4TQ+OFih-nby2Rh54i5177MOwqjTYDBMO=A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrU6aQ5PR_+M7QHkTWos6i6vVS2nvEQDwr5ktBkWu-5MKw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrW8uRK4cuQ+B6NPcO0pY-=-HRDf4LZk4xv2QdPzNEvMCg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrW_mQLmR6g_Ar8Nnpr7CRFZhth=Hj9C901Gj7_WSp=yEQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02 14:53                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 14:13             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-03  9:47               ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-03 10:00                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 10:28                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 10:41                   ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-03 11:18                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 15:19                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-12 12:38                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-12 12:39                   ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-12 12:54                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-12 13:00                     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-12 13:12                     ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2016-07-27 15:06         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2016-07-27 15:37           ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:14             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 17:57               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 19:00                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 19:20                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 19:50                     ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:07           ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:25             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:10           ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:14           ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:28             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:36               ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 17:20                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 17:51                   ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 18:57                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 19:37                 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-27 20:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 22:54                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-27 23:15                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-28  3:17                         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-28  3:29                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-28 16:57                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-29 22:10                       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-29 22:25                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-30 16:36                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-31  3:08                             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31  3:09                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-31 15:31                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31 16:19                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-31 17:28                                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31 18:20                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01  1:52                                         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 17:29                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 17:59                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 20:23                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 20:37                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 20:57                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 21:14                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 22:56                                                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 23:12                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02  0:33                                                     ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrXHfUULy-EB13Kbkjwco-2UVgsuRsG+OicZT6_uOkzeqA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <CALCETrWqpQV1AyxVx5eTkJiOe3t7ZFpSAuN2RG3JNHD-gqm0uA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02  0:48                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02  1:13                                                             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-02  1:23                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 18:12                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2016-08-01 22:21                                             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 22:36                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 23:02                                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 23:04                                                 ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 23:13                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 23:30                                                     ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrWDsMdU2-AWQC4wYvotnNd2ydWT15Ckq0nZaNRJZOtZ-g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <CALCETrW-P8+yGuEgM2BT+aCfZqJ=ekB2Xsz+4xhWtdRpprJHNw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-01 23:45                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 12:20                                                             ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                                                               ` <CALCETrVEY=opRPGKy=P9h8s+TC_K19WnBJ2svXT+=_FnqRF1Mw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                                 ` <CALCETrVZtn_SmeN1YX9_+2g+bEAHsfJJ7KQH7-eC_mU3O+0x2w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02 15:07                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 16:44                                                                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-03 17:20                                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 17:50                                                                         ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 17:15                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-02 18:55                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:02                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 19:08                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:14                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 19:17                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:20                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 20:22                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-29 12:43                 ` Ben Hutchings
2016-07-29 17:57                   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 10:22           ` Johannes Berg

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