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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
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Cc: "tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"
	<tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 19:46:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161006164621.GA4794@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161006162245.GF1224-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:22:45AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 02:23:57PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> > I think that they should be fenced then for the sake of consistency.
> > I do not see why sysfs code is privileged not to do fencing while other
> > peers have to do it.
> 
> Certainly the locking could be changed, but it would be nice to have a
> reason other than aesthetics.
> 
> sysfs is not unique, we also do not grab the rwlock lock during any
> commands executed as part of probe. There are basically two locking
> regimes - stuff that is proven to by synchronous with probe/remove
> (sysfs, probe cmds) and everything else (kapi, cdev)
> 
> Further, the current sysfs implementation is nice and sane: the file
> accesses cannot fail with ENODEV. That is a useful concrete property
> and I don't think we should change it without a good reason.

The last point is certainly legit. I think it even might deserve a
comment of its own in tpm_del_char_device.

I think I have a good idea now what to do. Hold on for RFC patch.

> Jason

/Jarkko

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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@intel.com>,
	"tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" 
	<tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 19:46:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161006164621.GA4794@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161006162245.GF1224@obsidianresearch.com>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:22:45AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 02:23:57PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> > I think that they should be fenced then for the sake of consistency.
> > I do not see why sysfs code is privileged not to do fencing while other
> > peers have to do it.
> 
> Certainly the locking could be changed, but it would be nice to have a
> reason other than aesthetics.
> 
> sysfs is not unique, we also do not grab the rwlock lock during any
> commands executed as part of probe. There are basically two locking
> regimes - stuff that is proven to by synchronous with probe/remove
> (sysfs, probe cmds) and everything else (kapi, cdev)
> 
> Further, the current sysfs implementation is nice and sane: the file
> accesses cannot fail with ENODEV. That is a useful concrete property
> and I don't think we should change it without a good reason.

The last point is certainly legit. I think it even might deserve a
comment of its own in tpm_del_char_device.

I think I have a good idea now what to do. Hold on for RFC patch.

> Jason

/Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-06 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-02  7:39 [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely Tomas Winkler
     [not found] ` <1475393971-12715-1-git-send-email-tomas.winkler-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 10:17   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-02 10:17     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20161002101755.GA25844-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 10:24       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-02 10:24         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]         ` <20161002102455.GA27464-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 21:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-02 21:21             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20161002212126.GA25872-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03  7:05               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03  7:05                 ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                 ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F466B-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03  7:38                   ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03  7:38                     ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                     ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F46C1-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 12:42                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 12:42                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 16:03                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20161003160308.GA6801-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 17:30                             ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 17:30                               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 12:48                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                   ` <20161003124836.GE9990-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04  5:19                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-04  5:19                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-04 16:47                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-04 21:55                         ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-04 23:10                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20161004231057.GA20062-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05  7:48                               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-05  7:48                                 ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                                 ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F5084-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 15:15                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 15:15                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 16:37                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 17:11                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 20:09                                   ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-05 21:16                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06  0:43                                       ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                                         ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F561B-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06  2:07                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06  2:07                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20161006020748.GA17479-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-07 14:24                                               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-07 14:24                                                 ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-07 19:17                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20161007191724.GA28795-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-07 20:10                                                     ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-07 20:10                                                       ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                                                 ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F625A-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-08 10:47                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-08 10:47                                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:02                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                           ` <20161005100234.GA20851-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 16:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 16:27                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06 11:23                               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-06 16:22                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20161006162245.GF1224-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 16:46                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2016-10-06 16:46                                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:09                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 16:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03 17:16                   ` Winkler, Tomas
     [not found]                     ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F474C-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 17:30                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03 17:30                         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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