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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vhost: enable any layout feature
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 02:20:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161010014900-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160928022848.GE1597@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:28:48AM +0800, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:56:40PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:11:58AM +0800, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:24:55PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:01:58AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > > I assume that if using Version 1 that the bit will be ignored
> > > 
> > > Yes, but I will just quote what you just said: what if the guest
> > > virtio device is a legacy device? I also gave my reasons in another
> > > email why I consistently set this flag:
> > > 
> > >   - we have to return all features we support to the guest.
> > >   
> > >     We don't know the guest is a modern or legacy device. That means
> > >     we should claim we support both: VERSION_1 and ANY_LAYOUT.
> > >   
> > >     Assume guest is a legacy device and we just set VERSION_1 (the current
> > >     case), ANY_LAYOUT will never be negotiated.
> > >   
> > >   - I'm following the way Linux kernel takes: it also set both features.
> > >   
> > >   Maybe, we could unset ANY_LAYOUT when VERSION_1 is _negotiated_?
> > > 
> > > The unset after negotiation I proposed turned out it won't work: the
> > > feature is already negotiated; unsetting it only in vhost side doesn't
> > > change anything. Besides, it may break the migration as Michael stated
> > > below.
> > 
> > I think the reverse. Teach vhost user that for future machine types
> > only VERSION_1 implies ANY_LAYOUT.

So I guess at this point, we can teach vhost-user in qemu
that version 1 implies any_layout but only for machine types
qemu 2.8 and up. It sets a bad precedent but oh well.

-- 
MST

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] vhost: enable any layout feature
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 02:20:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161010014900-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160928022848.GE1597@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:28:48AM +0800, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:56:40PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:11:58AM +0800, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:24:55PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:01:58AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > > I assume that if using Version 1 that the bit will be ignored
> > > 
> > > Yes, but I will just quote what you just said: what if the guest
> > > virtio device is a legacy device? I also gave my reasons in another
> > > email why I consistently set this flag:
> > > 
> > >   - we have to return all features we support to the guest.
> > >   
> > >     We don't know the guest is a modern or legacy device. That means
> > >     we should claim we support both: VERSION_1 and ANY_LAYOUT.
> > >   
> > >     Assume guest is a legacy device and we just set VERSION_1 (the current
> > >     case), ANY_LAYOUT will never be negotiated.
> > >   
> > >   - I'm following the way Linux kernel takes: it also set both features.
> > >   
> > >   Maybe, we could unset ANY_LAYOUT when VERSION_1 is _negotiated_?
> > > 
> > > The unset after negotiation I proposed turned out it won't work: the
> > > feature is already negotiated; unsetting it only in vhost side doesn't
> > > change anything. Besides, it may break the migration as Michael stated
> > > below.
> > 
> > I think the reverse. Teach vhost user that for future machine types
> > only VERSION_1 implies ANY_LAYOUT.

So I guess at this point, we can teach vhost-user in qemu
that version 1 implies any_layout but only for machine types
qemu 2.8 and up. It sets a bad precedent but oh well.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-09 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-26  6:40 [PATCH 0/2] enables vhost/virtio any layout feature Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-26  6:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] vhost: enable " Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-26 18:01   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-26 19:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-26 19:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-27  3:11       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-27  3:11         ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-27 19:48         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-27 19:48           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-27 19:56         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-27 19:56           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-28  2:28           ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-28  2:28             ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-29 15:30             ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-09-29 17:57               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-29 20:05                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-09-29 20:21                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-29 21:23                     ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-09-30 12:05                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-09-30 19:16                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  4:05                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  4:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  4:22                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  4:25                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10 12:40                                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-10-10 14:42                                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10 14:54                                     ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-10-11  6:04                                       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-11  6:39                                         ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-10-11  6:49                                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-03 14:20                     ` Maxime Coquelin
2016-10-10  3:37                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  3:46                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  3:59                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  4:16                           ` Wang, Zhihong
2016-10-10  4:24                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  4:39                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-11  6:57                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-12  3:21                                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-12  3:21                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [dpdk-dev] " Yuanhan Liu
     [not found]                                   ` <F5DF4F0E3AFEF648ADC1C3C33AD4DBF16C2409EB@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2016-10-13  2:52                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Yang, Zhiyong
2016-10-13  2:52                                       ` [Qemu-devel] [dpdk-dev] " Yang, Zhiyong
2016-10-10  3:50                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-09 23:20             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-10-09 23:20               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  3:03               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  3:03                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  3:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  3:04                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-10  3:10                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-10-10  3:10                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-26  6:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] net/virtio: " Yuanhan Liu
2016-09-26 18:04   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-29 18:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-29 18:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-10 15:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] enables vhost/virtio " Michael S. Tsirkin

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