From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Sun, Jing A" <jing.a.sun@intel.com>
Cc: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]"drm: change DRM_MIPI_DSI module type from "bool" to "tristate".
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:51:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012065136.GH20761@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C5AB7166D8288A4698415C150FD56DBA22E3FCFB@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:08:24AM +0000, Sun, Jing A wrote:
> Interestingly, I am able to reload i915 and drm. Our CI has tests for
> i915 unload/reload, but does not check drm. In any case the config
> problem should not impact the reloadability of i915.
> ======
> Sorry that I didn't make myself clear. In order to replace the default
> i915 module with an updated one, the related DRM modules also need to be
> updated to match the updated i915, hence the restriction.
Just to avoid tears in the future: If you plan to ship this in product,
you won't ship.
And for debugging, just install a kernel with your changes for both drm
and i915.
In short, your use-case isn't really valid (but we could still make the
dsi code modular if people feel like).
-Daniel
>
> Regards,
> Sun, Jing
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrzej Hajda [mailto:a.hajda@samsung.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:53 PM
> To: Jani Nikula; Sun, Jing A; Takashi Iwai
> Cc: airlied@linux.ie; Vetter, Daniel; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Thierry Reding; Emil Velikov
> Subject: Re: [PATCH]"drm: change DRM_MIPI_DSI module type from "bool" to "tristate".
>
> On 11.10.2016 11:33, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, "Sun, Jing A" <jing.a.sun@intel.com> wrote:
> >> It's needed that DRM Driver module could be removed and reloaded
> >> after kernel booting on the projects that I have been working on, and
> >> I hope such module type change could be accepted. Looks like Iwai has
> >> similar change request as well. Would you please review it and let us
> >> know if any concerns?
> > Looking at the Kconfig, selecting CONFIG_DRM_MIPI_DSI is against the
> > recommendations of Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt:
> >
> > select should be used with care. select will force
> > a symbol to a value without visiting the dependencies.
> > By abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
> > if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
> > In general use select only for non-visible symbols
> > (no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with no dependencies.
> > That will limit the usefulness but on the other hand avoid
> > the illegal configurations all over.
>
> All existing drivers which selects DRM_MIPI_DSI also depends on DRM.
> So the dependency is always true. I am not sure if it could not change in the future, but in such case mipi_dsi bus should be completely detached from DRM framework, I hope we have not such case yet :)
>
> >
> > Indeed, you may end up with CONFIG_DRM_MIPI_DSI=y and CONFIG_DRM=m,
> > which violates DRM_MIPI_DSI dependency on CONFIG_DRM. This is broken
> > and should be fixed. The suggested patch does *not* fix this issue.
>
> At the moment it should not be possible.
>
> Regards
> Andrzej
>
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
--
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Sun, Jing A" <jing.a.sun@intel.com>
Cc: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]"drm: change DRM_MIPI_DSI module type from "bool" to "tristate".
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:51:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012065136.GH20761@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C5AB7166D8288A4698415C150FD56DBA22E3FCFB@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:08:24AM +0000, Sun, Jing A wrote:
> Interestingly, I am able to reload i915 and drm. Our CI has tests for
> i915 unload/reload, but does not check drm. In any case the config
> problem should not impact the reloadability of i915.
> ======
> Sorry that I didn't make myself clear. In order to replace the default
> i915 module with an updated one, the related DRM modules also need to be
> updated to match the updated i915, hence the restriction.
Just to avoid tears in the future: If you plan to ship this in product,
you won't ship.
And for debugging, just install a kernel with your changes for both drm
and i915.
In short, your use-case isn't really valid (but we could still make the
dsi code modular if people feel like).
-Daniel
>
> Regards,
> Sun, Jing
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrzej Hajda [mailto:a.hajda@samsung.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:53 PM
> To: Jani Nikula; Sun, Jing A; Takashi Iwai
> Cc: airlied@linux.ie; Vetter, Daniel; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Thierry Reding; Emil Velikov
> Subject: Re: [PATCH]"drm: change DRM_MIPI_DSI module type from "bool" to "tristate".
>
> On 11.10.2016 11:33, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, "Sun, Jing A" <jing.a.sun@intel.com> wrote:
> >> It's needed that DRM Driver module could be removed and reloaded
> >> after kernel booting on the projects that I have been working on, and
> >> I hope such module type change could be accepted. Looks like Iwai has
> >> similar change request as well. Would you please review it and let us
> >> know if any concerns?
> > Looking at the Kconfig, selecting CONFIG_DRM_MIPI_DSI is against the
> > recommendations of Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt:
> >
> > select should be used with care. select will force
> > a symbol to a value without visiting the dependencies.
> > By abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
> > if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
> > In general use select only for non-visible symbols
> > (no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with no dependencies.
> > That will limit the usefulness but on the other hand avoid
> > the illegal configurations all over.
>
> All existing drivers which selects DRM_MIPI_DSI also depends on DRM.
> So the dependency is always true. I am not sure if it could not change in the future, but in such case mipi_dsi bus should be completely detached from DRM framework, I hope we have not such case yet :)
>
> >
> > Indeed, you may end up with CONFIG_DRM_MIPI_DSI=y and CONFIG_DRM=m,
> > which violates DRM_MIPI_DSI dependency on CONFIG_DRM. This is broken
> > and should be fixed. The suggested patch does *not* fix this issue.
>
> At the moment it should not be possible.
>
> Regards
> Andrzej
>
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-12 6:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-10 7:31 [PATCH]"drm: change DRM_MIPI_DSI module type from "bool" to "tristate" Sun, Jing A
2016-10-10 8:28 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-10 8:28 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-10 9:57 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-10-11 8:40 ` Sun, Jing A
2016-10-11 9:17 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-10-11 9:17 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-10-11 9:33 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-11 9:33 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-11 9:53 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-10-11 9:53 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-10-12 3:08 ` Sun, Jing A
2016-10-12 6:51 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2016-10-12 6:51 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-10-12 9:04 ` Sun, Jing A
2016-10-12 10:52 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-12 10:52 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-12 11:28 ` Emil Velikov
2016-10-12 11:28 ` Emil Velikov
2016-10-12 14:28 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-12 14:28 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-20 13:20 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-10-20 13:44 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-20 13:44 ` Jani Nikula
2016-10-21 12:19 ` Daniel Vetter
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