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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-team@lge.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 08/11] mm: make ttu's return boolean
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:37:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170309063721.GC854@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70f60783-e098-c1a9-11b4-544530bcd809@nvidia.com>

Hi John,

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:13:26PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 03/01/2017 10:39 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >try_to_unmap returns SWAP_SUCCESS or SWAP_FAIL so it's suitable for
> >boolean return. This patch changes it.
> 
> Hi Minchan,
> 
> So, up until this patch, I definitely like the cleanup, because as you
> observed, the return values didn't need so many different values. However,
> at this point, I think you should stop, and keep the SWAP_SUCCESS and
> SWAP_FAIL (or maybe even rename them to UNMAP_* or TTU_RESULT_*, to match
> their functions' names better), because removing them makes the code
> considerably less readable.
> 
> And since this is billed as a cleanup, we care here, even though this is a
> minor point. :)
> 
> Bool return values are sometimes perfect, such as when asking a question:
> 
>    bool mode_changed = needs_modeset(crtc_state);
> 
> The above is very nice. However, for returning success or failure, bools are
> not as nice, because *usually* success == true, except when you use the
> errno-based system, in which success == 0 (which would translate to false,
> if you mistakenly treated it as a bool). That leads to the reader having to
> remember which system is in use, usually with no visual cues to help.

I think it's the matter of taste.

        if (try_to_unmap(xxx))
                something
        else
                something

It's perfectly understandable to me. IOW, if try_to_unmap returns true,
it means it did unmap successfully. Otherwise, failed.

IMHO, SWAP_SUCCESS or TTU_RESULT_* seems to be an over-engineering.
If the user want it, user can do it by introducing right variable name
in his context. See below.

> 
> >
> [...]
> > 	if (PageSwapCache(p)) {
> >@@ -971,7 +971,7 @@ static int hwpoison_user_mappings(struct page *p, unsigned long pfn,
> > 		collect_procs(hpage, &tokill, flags & MF_ACTION_REQUIRED);
> >
> > 	ret = try_to_unmap(hpage, ttu);
> >-	if (ret != SWAP_SUCCESS)
> >+	if (!ret)
> > 		pr_err("Memory failure: %#lx: failed to unmap page (mapcount=%d)\n",
> > 		       pfn, page_mapcount(hpage));
> >
> >@@ -986,8 +986,7 @@ static int hwpoison_user_mappings(struct page *p, unsigned long pfn,
> > 	 * any accesses to the poisoned memory.
> > 	 */
> > 	forcekill = PageDirty(hpage) || (flags & MF_MUST_KILL);
> >-	kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno,
> >-		      ret != SWAP_SUCCESS, p, pfn, flags);
> >+	kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno, !ret , p, pfn, flags);
> 
> The kill_procs() invocation was a little more readable before.

Indeed but I think it's not a problem of try_to_unmap but ret variable name
isn't good any more. How about this?

        bool unmap_success;

        unmap_success = try_to_unmap(hpage, ttu);

        ..

        kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno, !unmap_success , p, pfn, flags);

        ..

        return unmap_success;

My point is user can introduce whatever variable name depends on his
context. No need to make return variable complicated, IMHO.

> 
> >
> [...]
> >diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >index 170c61f..e4b74f1 100644
> >--- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >@@ -966,7 +966,6 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > 		int may_enter_fs;
> > 		enum page_references references = PAGEREF_RECLAIM_CLEAN;
> > 		bool dirty, writeback;
> >-		int ret = SWAP_SUCCESS;
> >
> > 		cond_resched();
> >
> >@@ -1139,13 +1138,9 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > 		 * processes. Try to unmap it here.
> > 		 */
> > 		if (page_mapped(page)) {
> >-			switch (ret = try_to_unmap(page,
> >-				ttu_flags | TTU_BATCH_FLUSH)) {
> >-			case SWAP_FAIL:
> 
> Again: the SWAP_FAIL makes it crystal clear which case we're in.

To me, I don't feel it.
To me, below is perfectly understandable.

        if (try_to_unmap())
                do something
 
That's why I think it's matter of taste. Okay, I admit I might be
biased, too so I will consider what you suggested if others votes
it.

Thanks.

> 
> I also wonder if UNMAP_FAIL or TTU_RESULT_FAIL is a better name?
> 
> thanks,
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
> 
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-team@lge.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 08/11] mm: make ttu's return boolean
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:37:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170309063721.GC854@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70f60783-e098-c1a9-11b4-544530bcd809@nvidia.com>

Hi John,

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:13:26PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 03/01/2017 10:39 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >try_to_unmap returns SWAP_SUCCESS or SWAP_FAIL so it's suitable for
> >boolean return. This patch changes it.
> 
> Hi Minchan,
> 
> So, up until this patch, I definitely like the cleanup, because as you
> observed, the return values didn't need so many different values. However,
> at this point, I think you should stop, and keep the SWAP_SUCCESS and
> SWAP_FAIL (or maybe even rename them to UNMAP_* or TTU_RESULT_*, to match
> their functions' names better), because removing them makes the code
> considerably less readable.
> 
> And since this is billed as a cleanup, we care here, even though this is a
> minor point. :)
> 
> Bool return values are sometimes perfect, such as when asking a question:
> 
>    bool mode_changed = needs_modeset(crtc_state);
> 
> The above is very nice. However, for returning success or failure, bools are
> not as nice, because *usually* success == true, except when you use the
> errno-based system, in which success == 0 (which would translate to false,
> if you mistakenly treated it as a bool). That leads to the reader having to
> remember which system is in use, usually with no visual cues to help.

I think it's the matter of taste.

        if (try_to_unmap(xxx))
                something
        else
                something

It's perfectly understandable to me. IOW, if try_to_unmap returns true,
it means it did unmap successfully. Otherwise, failed.

IMHO, SWAP_SUCCESS or TTU_RESULT_* seems to be an over-engineering.
If the user want it, user can do it by introducing right variable name
in his context. See below.

> 
> >
> [...]
> > 	if (PageSwapCache(p)) {
> >@@ -971,7 +971,7 @@ static int hwpoison_user_mappings(struct page *p, unsigned long pfn,
> > 		collect_procs(hpage, &tokill, flags & MF_ACTION_REQUIRED);
> >
> > 	ret = try_to_unmap(hpage, ttu);
> >-	if (ret != SWAP_SUCCESS)
> >+	if (!ret)
> > 		pr_err("Memory failure: %#lx: failed to unmap page (mapcount=%d)\n",
> > 		       pfn, page_mapcount(hpage));
> >
> >@@ -986,8 +986,7 @@ static int hwpoison_user_mappings(struct page *p, unsigned long pfn,
> > 	 * any accesses to the poisoned memory.
> > 	 */
> > 	forcekill = PageDirty(hpage) || (flags & MF_MUST_KILL);
> >-	kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno,
> >-		      ret != SWAP_SUCCESS, p, pfn, flags);
> >+	kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno, !ret , p, pfn, flags);
> 
> The kill_procs() invocation was a little more readable before.

Indeed but I think it's not a problem of try_to_unmap but ret variable name
isn't good any more. How about this?

        bool unmap_success;

        unmap_success = try_to_unmap(hpage, ttu);

        ..

        kill_procs(&tokill, forcekill, trapno, !unmap_success , p, pfn, flags);

        ..

        return unmap_success;

My point is user can introduce whatever variable name depends on his
context. No need to make return variable complicated, IMHO.

> 
> >
> [...]
> >diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >index 170c61f..e4b74f1 100644
> >--- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >@@ -966,7 +966,6 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > 		int may_enter_fs;
> > 		enum page_references references = PAGEREF_RECLAIM_CLEAN;
> > 		bool dirty, writeback;
> >-		int ret = SWAP_SUCCESS;
> >
> > 		cond_resched();
> >
> >@@ -1139,13 +1138,9 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > 		 * processes. Try to unmap it here.
> > 		 */
> > 		if (page_mapped(page)) {
> >-			switch (ret = try_to_unmap(page,
> >-				ttu_flags | TTU_BATCH_FLUSH)) {
> >-			case SWAP_FAIL:
> 
> Again: the SWAP_FAIL makes it crystal clear which case we're in.

To me, I don't feel it.
To me, below is perfectly understandable.

        if (try_to_unmap())
                do something
 
That's why I think it's matter of taste. Okay, I admit I might be
biased, too so I will consider what you suggested if others votes
it.

Thanks.

> 
> I also wonder if UNMAP_FAIL or TTU_RESULT_FAIL is a better name?
> 
> thanks,
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02  6:39 [RFC 00/11] make try_to_unmap simple Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 01/11] mm: use SWAP_SUCCESS instead of 0 Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:27   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-02 14:27     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03  3:01     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  3:01       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  9:07       ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  9:07         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-07 14:19   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 14:19     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-08  6:25     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-08  6:25       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 02/11] mm: remove unncessary ret in page_referenced Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:33   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-02 14:33     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03  3:03     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  3:03       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-07 14:20   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 14:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 03/11] mm: remove SWAP_DIRTY in ttu Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  7:34   ` Hillf Danton
2017-03-02  7:34     ` Hillf Danton
2017-03-03  2:57     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  2:57       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:42   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-02 14:42     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-07 14:20   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 14:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 04/11] mm: remove SWAP_MLOCK check for SWAP_SUCCESS " Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:51   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-02 14:51     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03  3:04     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  3:04       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-07 14:26   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 14:26     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-08  6:40     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-08  6:40       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 05/11] mm: make the try_to_munlock void function Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03 11:43   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03 11:43     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  2:09     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  2:09       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  9:40       ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  9:40         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-07  6:50         ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-07  6:50           ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-07  8:55           ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-07  8:55             ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-07 15:17   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 15:17     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-08  6:41     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-08  6:41       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 06/11] mm: remove SWAP_MLOCK in ttu Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03 12:36   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03 12:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  2:15     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  2:15       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-07 15:24       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-07 15:24         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-08  6:42         ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-08  6:42           ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 07/11] mm: remove SWAP_AGAIN " Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03 12:54   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03 12:54     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  2:16     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  2:16       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 08/11] mm: make ttu's return boolean Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-08  7:13   ` John Hubbard
2017-03-08  7:13     ` John Hubbard
2017-03-09  6:37     ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-03-09  6:37       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-09  6:46       ` John Hubbard
2017-03-09  6:46         ` John Hubbard
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 09/11] mm: make rmap_walk void function Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 10/11] mm: make rmap_one boolean function Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39 ` [RFC 11/11] mm: remove SWAP_[SUCCESS|AGAIN|FAIL] Minchan Kim
2017-03-02  6:39   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03 13:04   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03 13:04     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-06  2:18     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-06  2:18       ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:22 ` [RFC 00/11] make try_to_unmap simple Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-02 14:22   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03  2:11   ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  2:11     ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-03  5:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-03-03  5:39       ` Anshuman Khandual

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