From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter
<daniel.vetter-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
amd-gfx-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
open list <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:18:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170418141827.11634103@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492509617.27392.19.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:00:17 +0200
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > ppc64 (big endian) virtual machine, running with qemu stdvga & bochs-drm
> > > driver. Xorg with modesetting driver uses DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (one and
> > > only format supported by bochs-drm), and we have to interpret that in
> > > bigendian byte order on the host side to get a correct display.
> >
> > I wonder if that is just an oversight from trying to match OpenGL
> > formats to DRM formats. It's full of gotcha's.
> >
> > Did you try with GLAMOR? Do you see a difference with and without
> > GLAMOR? Hmm, but you have no GPU support, so GLAMOR would be through a
> > Mesa software renderer? I think I heard someone say something about
> > Mesa software on BE...
>
> So, did some more testing to see where we stand.
>
> Historical note: RHEL-6.9 (gnome 2) works fine. Not of much interest
> here, it drives the qemu stdvga with offb, not bochs-drm.
I suppose this proves the virtual machine itself is correct about
framebuffer endianess? Except you are running it on a little-endian
host machine I presume...
> More interesting: RHEL-7.3 (gnome 3.14) works fine too. kernel 3.10,
> but drm drivers updated to roughly 4.6 level. Runs bochs-drm. mesa
> 11.2.2. glamour not used.
>
> Most recent: Fedora 25 (gnome 3.22) looks mostly ok, but there are
> rendering glitches, for example in the gnome activities screen (the one
> you get when you press the windows key). kernel 4.10, mesa 13.0.4.
> glamor not used, but I think gnome-shell uses opengl (via llvmpipe) for
> compositing.
I believe glitches are irrelevant for this topic, what we are
interested in is if the colors are right or byte-swapped (also mind
alpha/blue etc. swaps).
> btw: is there some way to start a wayland session from a shell (i.e.
> what startx does for xorg)?
Depends on which display server you want to start I believe. I don't
know about anything else than Weston, which is 'weston' for a
logind-enabled system.
Thanks,
pq
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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:18:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170418141827.11634103@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492509617.27392.19.camel@redhat.com>
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:00:17 +0200
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > ppc64 (big endian) virtual machine, running with qemu stdvga & bochs-drm
> > > driver. Xorg with modesetting driver uses DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (one and
> > > only format supported by bochs-drm), and we have to interpret that in
> > > bigendian byte order on the host side to get a correct display.
> >
> > I wonder if that is just an oversight from trying to match OpenGL
> > formats to DRM formats. It's full of gotcha's.
> >
> > Did you try with GLAMOR? Do you see a difference with and without
> > GLAMOR? Hmm, but you have no GPU support, so GLAMOR would be through a
> > Mesa software renderer? I think I heard someone say something about
> > Mesa software on BE...
>
> So, did some more testing to see where we stand.
>
> Historical note: RHEL-6.9 (gnome 2) works fine. Not of much interest
> here, it drives the qemu stdvga with offb, not bochs-drm.
I suppose this proves the virtual machine itself is correct about
framebuffer endianess? Except you are running it on a little-endian
host machine I presume...
> More interesting: RHEL-7.3 (gnome 3.14) works fine too. kernel 3.10,
> but drm drivers updated to roughly 4.6 level. Runs bochs-drm. mesa
> 11.2.2. glamour not used.
>
> Most recent: Fedora 25 (gnome 3.22) looks mostly ok, but there are
> rendering glitches, for example in the gnome activities screen (the one
> you get when you press the windows key). kernel 4.10, mesa 13.0.4.
> glamor not used, but I think gnome-shell uses opengl (via llvmpipe) for
> compositing.
I believe glitches are irrelevant for this topic, what we are
interested in is if the colors are right or byte-swapped (also mind
alpha/blue etc. swaps).
> btw: is there some way to start a wayland session from a shell (i.e.
> what startx does for xorg)?
Depends on which display server you want to start I believe. I don't
know about anything else than Weston, which is 'weston' for a
logind-enabled system.
Thanks,
pq
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2017-04-10 10:12 [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 10:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <20170410101202.19229-1-kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 12:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-10 12:02 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20170410120212.3igweieunldjcjuy-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 16:28 ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 16:28 ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 13:12 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 13:12 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 14:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 14:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <1491833847.30990.77.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 14:45 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 14:45 ` Ilia Mirkin
[not found] ` <CAKb7Uvgidg9_RkU0NJY7qwhcf0_Hyc0EGzWmvk0qqaf_YDW97g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 16:26 ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 16:26 ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 15:09 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 15:09 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 16:10 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 16:10 ` Ilia Mirkin
[not found] ` <CAKb7UvhbgSGwx-2EsrQrHmghzYqO9AhRQ10bDWKfdcXHc3fJeQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-11 7:31 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 7:31 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 11:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-11 11:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <1491909833.30990.93.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-13 7:44 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-13 7:44 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 14:18 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-11 14:18 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-17 6:43 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18 2:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18 2:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18 5:04 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18 5:04 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18 5:58 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18 5:58 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <fe944ecc-3ca4-26d8-77bc-873a53dcbb3f-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18 10:14 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:14 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <1492510440.27392.27.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 1:01 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-19 1:01 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-19 3:19 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19 3:19 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19 3:28 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19 3:28 ` Ilia Mirkin
[not found] ` <4230c093-6a8a-76d6-dce8-f9b2300fa70f-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 7:09 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-19 7:09 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-19 12:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-19 12:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <1492509617.27392.19.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18 11:18 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2017-04-18 11:18 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 13:39 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 13:39 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <1492522793.27392.55.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18 14:01 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 14:01 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 20:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 20:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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