From: axboe@kernel.dk (Jens Axboe)
Subject: [PATCH 0/5] nvme APST fixes/improvements for 4.11
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:10:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420030959.GC23085@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1492656278.git.luto@kernel.org>
On Wed, Apr 19 2017, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long for this. I was waiting for feedback from
> Samsung, but they haven't root-caused the issue yet, and I should
> have just done this from the beginning.
>
> This series makes APST more debuggable and updates the quirk list.
> The quirks I'm aware of are:
>
> - Samsung 950 series SSDs in Dell XPS 15 9550 and Precision 5510
> laptops (which are essentially the same laptop) can lose their
> PCIe link if they're allowed to use the deepest APST state.
> Samsung engineers have an affected system and are working on
> it. The same exact SSDs in other machines (even an XPS 13)
> seem to work fine.
>
> - One Toshiba device malfunctions if APST is used at all.
You need to split this series in two, patches 1-3 can wait. For 4.11,
all we need to do is turn off APST on any device that potentially has
this problem.
> One thing that improves my confidence that there aren't too many
> more problems with APST is that Ubuntu has backported APST to Zesty,
> so it's already gotten a bit of testing in a widely used (if very
> new) release.
Honestly, I think the best path for 4.11 is to turn off APST by default,
make it opt-in instead. I don't share your optimism here, as I made
clear back from before we even merged this feature.
--
Jens Axboe
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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] nvme APST fixes/improvements for 4.11
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:10:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420030959.GC23085@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1492656278.git.luto@kernel.org>
On Wed, Apr 19 2017, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long for this. I was waiting for feedback from
> Samsung, but they haven't root-caused the issue yet, and I should
> have just done this from the beginning.
>
> This series makes APST more debuggable and updates the quirk list.
> The quirks I'm aware of are:
>
> - Samsung 950 series SSDs in Dell XPS 15 9550 and Precision 5510
> laptops (which are essentially the same laptop) can lose their
> PCIe link if they're allowed to use the deepest APST state.
> Samsung engineers have an affected system and are working on
> it. The same exact SSDs in other machines (even an XPS 13)
> seem to work fine.
>
> - One Toshiba device malfunctions if APST is used at all.
You need to split this series in two, patches 1-3 can wait. For 4.11,
all we need to do is turn off APST on any device that potentially has
this problem.
> One thing that improves my confidence that there aren't too many
> more problems with APST is that Ubuntu has backported APST to Zesty,
> so it's already gotten a bit of testing in a widely used (if very
> new) release.
Honestly, I think the best path for 4.11 is to turn off APST by default,
make it opt-in instead. I don't share your optimism here, as I made
clear back from before we even merged this feature.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-20 3:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-20 3:02 [PATCH 0/5] nvme APST fixes/improvements for 4.11 Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` [PATCH 1/5] nvme: Fix APST comment Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] nvme: Display raw APST configuration via DYNAMIC_DEBUG Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` [PATCH 3/5] nvme: Add nvme_core.force_apst to ignore the NO_APST quirk Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` [PATCH 4/5] nvme: Adjust the Samsung APST quirk Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:07 ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-20 3:07 ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-20 3:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 4:33 ` Judy Brock
2017-04-20 4:33 ` Judy Brock
2017-04-20 3:02 ` [PATCH 5/5] nvme: Quirk APST off on "THNSF5256GPUK TOSHIBA" Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:10 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-04-20 3:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] nvme APST fixes/improvements for 4.11 Jens Axboe
2017-04-20 3:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 3:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 4:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 4:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 5:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 5:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 16:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20 16:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
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