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From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski-wFxRvT7yatFl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nbroeking-BUHhN+a2lJ4@public.gmane.org,
	Linus Torvalds
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	Greg KH
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	"Eric W. Biederman"
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	Dmitry Torokhov
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	Moritz Fischer
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	Petr Mladek <pmladek-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Berg
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	Emmanuel Grumbach
	<emmanuel.grumbach-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Coelho,
	Luciano" <luciano.coelho-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] swait: add the missing killable swaits
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:58:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170629135822.366fd67a@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170629194455.GR21846-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:44:55 +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 09:40:15PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <dave-h16yJtLeMjHk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >> I actually think swait is pure garbage. Most users only wake up one
> > > >> process anyway, and using swait for that is stupid. If you only wake
> > > >> up one, you might as well just have a single process pointer, not a
> > > >> wait list at all, and then use "wake_up_process()".  
> > > >
> > > > But you still need the notion of a queue, even if you wake one task
> > > > at a time... I'm probably missing your point here.  
> > > 
> > > The *reason* they wake up only one seems to be that there really is
> > > just one. It's some per-cpu idle thread for kvm, and for RCU it's the
> > > RCU workqueue thread.
> > > 
> > > So the queue literally looks suspiciously pointless.
> > > 
> > > But I might be wrong, and there can actually be multiple entries.  
> > 
> > Since this swake_up() --> swake_up_all() reportedly *fixed* the one wake up
> > issue it would seem this does queue [0]. That said, I don't see any simple tests
> > tools/testing/selftests/swait but then again we don't have test for regular
> > waits either...
> > 
> > [0] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195477  
> 
> I should also note that the swake_up_all() should have only helped in cases where
> 3 cards were used, as if only 2 were used that should have been covered by just
> the swake_up(). Unless of course I hear otherwise by the reporter, Nicolas or
> from Jakub.

I was hitting this with 2 cards.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: nbroeking@me.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	mfuzzey@parkeon.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	jewalt@lgsinnovations.com, rafal@milecki.pl,
	Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Li, Yi" <yi1.li@linux.intel.com>,
	atull@kernel.org, Moritz Fischer <moritz.fischer@ettus.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>,
	"Coelho, Luciano" <luciano.coelho@intel.com>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable # 4 . 6" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] swait: add the missing killable swaits
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:58:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170629135822.366fd67a@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170629194455.GR21846@wotan.suse.de>

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:44:55 +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 09:40:15PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >> I actually think swait is pure garbage. Most users only wake up one
> > > >> process anyway, and using swait for that is stupid. If you only wake
> > > >> up one, you might as well just have a single process pointer, not a
> > > >> wait list at all, and then use "wake_up_process()".  
> > > >
> > > > But you still need the notion of a queue, even if you wake one task
> > > > at a time... I'm probably missing your point here.  
> > > 
> > > The *reason* they wake up only one seems to be that there really is
> > > just one. It's some per-cpu idle thread for kvm, and for RCU it's the
> > > RCU workqueue thread.
> > > 
> > > So the queue literally looks suspiciously pointless.
> > > 
> > > But I might be wrong, and there can actually be multiple entries.  
> > 
> > Since this swake_up() --> swake_up_all() reportedly *fixed* the one wake up
> > issue it would seem this does queue [0]. That said, I don't see any simple tests
> > tools/testing/selftests/swait but then again we don't have test for regular
> > waits either...
> > 
> > [0] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195477  
> 
> I should also note that the swake_up_all() should have only helped in cases where
> 3 cards were used, as if only 2 were used that should have been covered by just
> the swake_up(). Unless of course I hear otherwise by the reporter, Nicolas or
> from Jakub.

I was hitting this with 2 cards.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 22:20 [PATCH 0/4] firmware: fix fallback mechanism by ignoring SIGCHLD Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] test_firmware: add test case for SIGCHLD on sync fallback Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] swait: add the missing killable swaits Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]   ` <20170614222017.14653-3-mcgrof-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 12:54     ` Greg KH
2017-06-29 12:54       ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <20170629125402.GH26046-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 13:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-29 13:05           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-29 13:35           ` Greg KH
2017-06-29 13:35             ` Greg KH
2017-06-29 13:46             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-29 13:46               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-29 16:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 16:13                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 16:31                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-06-29 16:31                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-06-29 17:29                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 17:29                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 17:40                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-06-29 17:40                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-06-29 17:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 17:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 18:33                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-06-29 18:33                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]                       ` <20170629183339.GD3954-3dK4OQgjB4rH06JGZaSw0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 18:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 18:59                           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                           ` <CA+55aFz8Mhx+A-g-5yOG-O1ZLRUR_fpeeA4iBNGH8EnDBZEdpA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 19:40                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 19:40                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 19:44                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 19:44                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                                 ` <20170629194455.GR21846-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 20:58                                   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2017-06-29 20:58                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-29 22:50                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 22:50                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 22:53                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-29 22:53                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-29 23:00                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 23:00                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 23:06                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-29 23:06                                             ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]                                       ` <20170629225003.GU21846-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-12 21:33                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-07-12 21:33                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                               ` <20170629194015.GQ21846-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 20:57                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 20:57                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05  2:06                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-07-05  2:06                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]                         ` <20170705020635.GD11168-3dK4OQgjB4rH06JGZaSw0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-07 19:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-07 19:58                             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-07 22:27                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-07-07 22:27                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-07-07 22:48                               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-07 22:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 19:15                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-29 19:15                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-29 19:15                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
     [not found]                   ` <20170629191506.GB12368-I4X2Mt4zSy4@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-30  4:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-30  4:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-30 11:55                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-30 11:55                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-30 11:55                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-30 11:57                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-30 11:57                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-06-30 17:30                       ` Krister Johansen
2017-06-30 17:30                         ` Krister Johansen
2017-06-14 22:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] firmware: avoid invalid fallback aborts by using killable swait Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] firmware: send -EINTR on signal abort on fallback mechanism Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 22:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15  7:49 ` [PATCH 0/4] firmware: fix fallback mechanism by ignoring SIGCHLD Martin Fuzzey
     [not found] ` <20170614222017.14653-1-mcgrof-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-26 21:19   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-26 21:19     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 15:14   ` Greg KH
2017-06-29 15:14     ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20170629151442.GA4880-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 17:29       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 17:29         ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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