From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, npiggin@gmail.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linuxarm@huawei.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, abdhalee@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, dzickus@redhat.com,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au
Subject: Re: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:12:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170725.210233.1441906980505926406.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
>
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> >> sparc64 too.
> >
> > Very good!
> >
> >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> >> about every 4 seconds.
> >
> > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > it would be needed. I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> >
> >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.
> >
> > Might be. My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y. What are
> > you running? (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > be seeing a different bug.)
>
> I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
>
> To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.
Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
had effect.
But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
or NO_HZ_FULL=y. So many possible tests, and so little time. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 04:12:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170725.210233.1441906980505926406.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
>
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> >> sparc64 too.
> >
> > Very good!
> >
> >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> >> about every 4 seconds.
> >
> > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > it would be needed. I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> >
> >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.
> >
> > Might be. My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y. What are
> > you running? (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > be seeing a different bug.)
>
> I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
>
> To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.
Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
had effect.
But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
or NO_HZ_FULL=y. So many possible tests, and so little time. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Paul E. McKenney)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:12:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170725.210233.1441906980505926406.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
>
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> >> sparc64 too.
> >
> > Very good!
> >
> >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> >> about every 4 seconds.
> >
> > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > it would be needed. I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> >
> >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.
> >
> > Might be. My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y. What are
> > you running? (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > be seeing a different bug.)
>
> I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
>
> To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.
Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
had effect.
But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
or NO_HZ_FULL=y. So many possible tests, and so little time. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
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2017-07-25 11:32 RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this? Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 12:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-25 12:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-25 13:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 13:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 13:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 14:42 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 14:42 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 14:42 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 16:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 16:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 16:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 21:10 ` David Miller
2017-07-25 21:10 ` David Miller
2017-07-25 21:10 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 3:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 3:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 3:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 4:02 ` David Miller
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2017-07-26 4:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 4:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 8:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 8:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 8:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 9:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 9:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 9:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 16:54 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:54 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:54 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 17:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 7:41 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 7:41 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 7:41 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:45 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 22:45 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 22:45 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:22 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:22 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:22 ` David Miller
2017-07-27 1:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 1:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 1:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 4:34 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27 4:34 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27 4:34 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27 12:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 12:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 12:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 13:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 13:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 7:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 7:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 7:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 12:54 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 12:54 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 12:54 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 13:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 13:37 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 13:37 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 13:37 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-29 1:20 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-29 1:20 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-29 1:20 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 18:42 ` David Miller
2017-07-28 18:42 ` David Miller
2017-07-28 18:42 ` David Miller
2017-07-28 13:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 17:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 17:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 17:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 18:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 18:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 18:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 16:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-02 16:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-02 16:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-15 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 1:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16 1:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16 1:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16 12:43 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:43 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:43 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 15:31 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 15:31 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 15:31 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-17 13:55 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 13:55 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 13:55 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-20 4:45 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 4:45 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 4:45 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 5:01 ` David Miller
2017-08-20 5:01 ` David Miller
2017-08-20 5:01 ` David Miller
2017-08-20 5:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 5:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 5:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 13:00 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 13:00 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 13:00 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-21 0:52 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 0:52 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 0:52 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 6:06 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 6:06 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 6:06 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 10:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 10:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 10:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 14:19 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 14:19 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 14:19 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 15:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 15:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 15:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 20:55 ` David Miller
2017-08-21 20:55 ` David Miller
2017-08-21 20:55 ` David Miller
2017-08-22 7:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 7:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 7:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 8:51 ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22 8:51 ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22 8:51 ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22 15:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 15:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 15:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 16:48 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:48 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:48 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 3:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 3:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 3:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 7:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 7:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
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