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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <abdhalee@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>, <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	<sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>, <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:16:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726091623.000004f7@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:12:17 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
> >   
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:  
> > >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> > >> sparc64 too.  
> > > 
> > > Very good!
> > >   
> > >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> > >> about every 4 seconds.  
> > > 
> > > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > > it would be needed.  I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> > >   
> > >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.  
> > > 
> > > Might be.  My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y.  What are
> > > you running?  (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > > be seeing a different bug.)  
> > 
> > I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
> > 
> > To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.  
> 
> Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
> some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
> had effect.
> 
> But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
> or NO_HZ_FULL=y.  So many possible tests, and so little time.  ;-)
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
I'll be the headless chicken running around and trying as many tests
as I can fit in.  Typical time to see the failure for us is sub 10
minutes so we'll see how far we get.

Make me a list to run if you like ;)

NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y running now.

Jonathan

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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:16:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726091623.000004f7@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:12:17 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
> >   
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:  
> > >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> > >> sparc64 too.  
> > > 
> > > Very good!
> > >   
> > >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> > >> about every 4 seconds.  
> > > 
> > > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > > it would be needed.  I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> > >   
> > >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.  
> > > 
> > > Might be.  My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y.  What are
> > > you running?  (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > > be seeing a different bug.)  
> > 
> > I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
> > 
> > To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.  
> 
> Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
> some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
> had effect.
> 
> But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
> or NO_HZ_FULL=y.  So many possible tests, and so little time.  ;-)
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
I'll be the headless chicken running around and trying as many tests
as I can fit in.  Typical time to see the failure for us is sub 10
minutes so we'll see how far we get.

Make me a list to run if you like ;)

NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y running now.

Jonathan


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com (Jonathan Cameron)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:16:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726091623.000004f7@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170726041217.GH3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:12:17 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:02:33PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:45 -0700
> >   
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:10:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote:  
> > >> Just to report, turning softlockup back on fixes things for me on
> > >> sparc64 too.  
> > > 
> > > Very good!
> > >   
> > >> The thing about softlockup is it runs an hrtimer, which seems to run
> > >> about every 4 seconds.  
> > > 
> > > I could see where that could shake things loose, but I am surprised that
> > > it would be needed.  I ran a short run with CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=y
> > > with no trouble, but I will be running a longer test later on.
> > >   
> > >> So I wonder if this is a NO_HZ problem.  
> > > 
> > > Might be.  My tests run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y.  What are
> > > you running?  (Again, my symptoms are slightly different, so I might
> > > be seeing a different bug.)  
> > 
> > I run with NO_HZ_FULL=n and NO_HZ_IDLE=y, just like you.
> > 
> > To clarify, the symptoms show up with SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR disabled.  
> 
> Same here -- but my failure case happens fairly rarely, so it will take
> some time to gain reasonable confidence that enabling SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR
> had effect.
> 
> But you are right, might be interesting to try NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y
> or NO_HZ_FULL=y.  So many possible tests, and so little time.  ;-)
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
I'll be the headless chicken running around and trying as many tests
as I can fit in.  Typical time to see the failure for us is sub 10
minutes so we'll see how far we get.

Make me a list to run if you like ;)

NO_HZ_PERIODIC=y running now.

Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-26  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 241+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-25 11:32 RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this? Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 12:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-25 12:26   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-25 13:46   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 13:46     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 13:46     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 14:42     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 14:42       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 14:42       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 15:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 15:12         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 15:12         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 16:52         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 16:52           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 16:52           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 21:10           ` David Miller
2017-07-25 21:10             ` David Miller
2017-07-25 21:10             ` David Miller
2017-07-26  3:55             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  3:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  3:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  4:02               ` David Miller
2017-07-26  4:02                 ` David Miller
2017-07-26  4:02                 ` David Miller
2017-07-26  4:12                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  4:12                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  4:12                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  8:16                   ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2017-07-26  8:16                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  8:16                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  9:32                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  9:32                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  9:32                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:14                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:14                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:14                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:23                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:23                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:23                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:49                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 15:49                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 15:49                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 16:54                                 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:54                                   ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:54                                   ` David Miller
2017-07-26 17:13                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:13                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:13                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27  7:41                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27  7:41                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27  7:41                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:50                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 17:50                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 17:50                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:45                                       ` David Miller
2017-07-26 22:45                                         ` David Miller
2017-07-26 22:45                                         ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:15                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:15                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:15                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:22                                           ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:22                                             ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:22                                             ` David Miller
2017-07-27  1:42                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  1:42                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  1:42                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  4:34                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27  4:34                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27  4:34                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27 12:49                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 12:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 12:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:49                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 13:49                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 13:49                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:52                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 16:52                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 16:52                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28  7:44                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28  7:44                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28  7:44                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 12:54                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 12:54                                                             ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 12:54                                                             ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 13:13                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:13                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:13                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 14:55                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 14:55                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 14:55                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 13:37                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 13:37                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 13:37                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 16:59                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 16:59                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 16:59                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-29  1:20                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-29  1:20                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-29  1:20                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 18:42                                                             ` David Miller
2017-07-28 18:42                                                               ` David Miller
2017-07-28 18:42                                                               ` David Miller
2017-07-28 13:08                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:08                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 16:55                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 16:55                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 17:27                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 17:27                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 17:27                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 19:03                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:03                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:03                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:08                                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:08                                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:08                                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:04                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:04                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:04                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 15:27                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:27                                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:27                                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 18:46                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 18:46                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 18:46                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 16:25                                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-02 16:25                                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-02 16:25                                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-15 15:47                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 15:47                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 15:47                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16  1:24                                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16  1:24                                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16  1:24                                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16 12:43                                                                               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:43                                                                                 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:43                                                                                 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:56                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 12:56                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 12:56                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 15:31                                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 15:31                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 15:31                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 16:27                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:27                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:27                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-17 13:55                                                                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 13:55                                                                                       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 13:55                                                                                       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-20  4:45                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20  4:45                                                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20  4:45                                                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20  5:01                                                                                       ` David Miller
2017-08-20  5:01                                                                                         ` David Miller
2017-08-20  5:01                                                                                         ` David Miller
2017-08-20  5:04                                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20  5:04                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20  5:04                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 13:00                                                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 13:00                                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 13:00                                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 18:35                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 18:35                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 18:35                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-21  0:52                                                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  0:52                                                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  0:52                                                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  6:06                                                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  6:06                                                                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  6:06                                                                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 10:18                                                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 10:18                                                                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 10:18                                                                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 14:19                                                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 14:19                                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 14:19                                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 15:02                                                                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 15:02                                                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 15:02                                                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 20:55                                                                                                     ` David Miller
2017-08-21 20:55                                                                                                       ` David Miller
2017-08-21 20:55                                                                                                       ` David Miller
2017-08-22  7:49                                                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22  7:49                                                                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22  7:49                                                                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22  8:51                                                                                                         ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22  8:51                                                                                                           ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22  8:51                                                                                                           ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22 15:26                                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 15:26                                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22 15:26                                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28                                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28                                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28                                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22  0:38                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22  0:38                                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22  0:38                                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:09                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:09                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:09                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 16:48                           ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:48                             ` David Miller
2017-07-26 16:48                             ` David Miller
2017-07-26  3:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  3:53             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  3:53             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  7:51             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  7:51               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  7:51               ` Jonathan Cameron

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