From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] fs: detect that the i_rwsem has already been taken exclusively
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 09:34:02 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171001223402.GG15067@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwG65-1DZGLkxWzXiPHECjVvY+WHa0ihRq6MbJ4yrX-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 11:41:48AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Right, re-introducing the iint->mutex and a new i_generation field in
> > the iint struct with a separate set of locks should work. It will be
> > reset if the file metadata changes (eg. setxattr, chown, chmod).
>
> Note that the "inner lock" could possibly be omitted if the
> invalidation can be just a single atomic instruction.
>
> So particularly if invalidation could be just an atomic_inc() on the
> generation count, there might not need to be any inner lock at all.
>
> You'd have to serialize the actual measurement with the "read
> generation count", but that should be as simple as just doing a
> smp_rmb() between the "read generation count" and "do measurement on
> file contents".
We already have a change counter on the inode, which is modified on
any data or metadata write (i_version) under filesystem locks. The
i_version counter has well defined semantics - it's required by
NFSv4 to increment on any metadata or data change - so we should be
able to rely on it's behaviour to implement IMA as well. Filesystems
that support i_version are marked with [SB|MS]_I_VERSION in the
superblock (IS_I_VERSION(inode)) so it should be easy to tell if IMA
can be supported on a specific filesystem (btrfs, ext4, fuse and xfs
ATM).
The IMA code should be able to sample that at measurement time and
either fail or be retried if i_version changes during measurement.
We can then simply make the IMA xattr write conditional on the
i_version value being unchanged from the sample the IMA code passes
into the filesystem once the filesystem holds all the locks it needs
to write the xattr...
I note that IMA already grabs the i_version in
ima_collect_measurement(), so this shouldn't be too hard to do.
Perhaps we don't need any new locks or counters at all, maybe just
the ability to feed a version cookie to the set_xattr method?
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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From: david@fromorbit.com (Dave Chinner)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 3/3] fs: detect that the i_rwsem has already been taken exclusively
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 09:34:02 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171001223402.GG15067@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwG65-1DZGLkxWzXiPHECjVvY+WHa0ihRq6MbJ4yrX-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 11:41:48AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Right, re-introducing the iint->mutex and a new i_generation field in
> > the iint struct with a separate set of locks should work. It will be
> > reset if the file metadata changes (eg. setxattr, chown, chmod).
>
> Note that the "inner lock" could possibly be omitted if the
> invalidation can be just a single atomic instruction.
>
> So particularly if invalidation could be just an atomic_inc() on the
> generation count, there might not need to be any inner lock at all.
>
> You'd have to serialize the actual measurement with the "read
> generation count", but that should be as simple as just doing a
> smp_rmb() between the "read generation count" and "do measurement on
> file contents".
We already have a change counter on the inode, which is modified on
any data or metadata write (i_version) under filesystem locks. The
i_version counter has well defined semantics - it's required by
NFSv4 to increment on any metadata or data change - so we should be
able to rely on it's behaviour to implement IMA as well. Filesystems
that support i_version are marked with [SB|MS]_I_VERSION in the
superblock (IS_I_VERSION(inode)) so it should be easy to tell if IMA
can be supported on a specific filesystem (btrfs, ext4, fuse and xfs
ATM).
The IMA code should be able to sample that at measurement time and
either fail or be retried if i_version changes during measurement.
We can then simply make the IMA xattr write conditional on the
i_version value being unchanged from the sample the IMA code passes
into the filesystem once the filesystem holds all the locks it needs
to write the xattr...
I note that IMA already grabs the i_version in
ima_collect_measurement(), so this shouldn't be too hard to do.
Perhaps we don't need any new locks or counters at all, maybe just
the ability to feed a version cookie to the set_xattr method?
Cheers,
Dave.
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david at fromorbit.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-01 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-28 12:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] define new read_iter file operation rwf flag Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs: define new read_iter " Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 13:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-09-28 13:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-09-28 14:33 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 14:33 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-28 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] integrity: use call_read_iter to calculate the file hash Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] fs: detect that the i_rwsem has already been taken exclusively Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-28 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-28 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-28 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29 0:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 0:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 0:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29 1:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 1:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 1:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 1:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-01 1:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <CA+55aFx726wT4VprN-sHm6s8Q_PV_VjhTBC4goEbMcerYU1Tig@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-01 12:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 12:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 12:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 22:34 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2017-10-01 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-01 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-02 3:54 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 3:54 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-01 23:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 23:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 23:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 3:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-02 3:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-02 3:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-02 12:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 4:35 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 4:35 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 4:35 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 4:35 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 12:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:43 ` Jeff Layton
2017-10-02 12:43 ` Jeff Layton
2017-10-01 22:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-01 22:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-01 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 23:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 23:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 23:54 ` Mimi Zohar
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