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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [lockdep] b09be676e0 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001f2
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:31:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171004103119.sedmwqcfwu3ze5od@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171004092052.ioixdexrsbbwvetr@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

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* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 07:18:24PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Yes, I'll do that tomorrow. I was always a bit unhappy about cross-release,
> > because it breaks the 'owner task owns the lock' model.
> 
> Still, you can get real deadlocks with completions...
> 
> > Plus I don't think we found that many real bugs with it
> 
> Every bug found is one less bug. It did find a few.

Certainly, but the total work saved by finding bugs should be balanced against the 
additional fragility of lockdep and the ongoing maintenance cost.

Thanks,

	Ingo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKP <lkp@01.org>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [lockdep] b09be676e0 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001f2
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:31:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171004103119.sedmwqcfwu3ze5od@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171004092052.ioixdexrsbbwvetr@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 07:18:24PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Yes, I'll do that tomorrow. I was always a bit unhappy about cross-release,
> > because it breaks the 'owner task owns the lock' model.
> 
> Still, you can get real deadlocks with completions...
> 
> > Plus I don't think we found that many real bugs with it
> 
> Every bug found is one less bug. It did find a few.

Certainly, but the total work saved by finding bugs should be balanced against the 
additional fragility of lockdep and the ongoing maintenance cost.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-04 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-03 14:06 [lockdep] b09be676e0 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001f2 Fengguang Wu
2017-10-03 14:06 ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-03 14:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 14:31   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 14:41   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 14:41     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 15:05     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 15:05       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 16:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 16:28         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 17:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 17:34           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-03 21:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-03 21:44             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-04 21:06             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 21:06               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 21:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-04 21:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-04 22:15                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 22:15                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 22:40             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 22:40               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-05 11:02               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-05 11:02                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-05 13:57                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-05 13:57                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04  8:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-04  8:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10  5:57         ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-10  5:57           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-03 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-03 16:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-03 16:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-03 16:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10  5:48     ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-10  5:48       ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-10 16:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10 16:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10 16:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10 18:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 18:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 18:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-10 18:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-11  1:14             ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  1:14               ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  2:36           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  2:36             ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  0:56         ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  0:56           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  1:02           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-11  1:02             ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-12  1:15           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-12  1:15             ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-03 17:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-03 17:18     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-04  9:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-04  9:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-04 10:31       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-10-04 10:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-04 14:15       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-04 14:15         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-10  5:30     ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-10  5:30       ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-05 13:01   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-05 13:01     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-05 14:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-05 14:54       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-09 10:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 10:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 12:21         ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 12:21           ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 12:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 12:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 12:59             ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 12:59               ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 13:03             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-09 13:03               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-09 12:55           ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 12:55             ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 13:26             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-09 13:26               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-09 14:17               ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 14:17                 ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 15:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 15:28                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 15:41                   ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 15:41                     ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 15:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 15:44                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-09 15:47                       ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-09 15:47                         ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-10  5:08   ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-10  5:08     ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-12  8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-12  8:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-12  9:21   ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-12  9:21     ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-12  9:28     ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-12  9:28       ` Fengguang Wu
2017-10-12 11:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-12 11:45         ` Peter Zijlstra

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