From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: memcontrol: memory+swap accounting for cgroup-v2
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:41:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171219214107.GR3919388@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7pbp0fFUPRnC68qdzkCEUg2YTavq6C6OLxqooCU5VeyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:25:12AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> Making the runtime environment, an invariant is very critical to make
> the management of a job easier whose instances run on different
> clusters across the world. Some clusters might have different type of
> swaps installed while some might not have one at all and the
> availability of the swap can be dynamic (i.e. swap medium outage).
>
> So, if users want to run multiple instances of a job across multiple
> clusters, they should be able to specify the limits of their jobs
> irrespective of the knowledge of cluster. The best case would be they
> just submits their jobs without any config and the system figures out
> the right limit and enforce that. And to figure out the right limit
> and enforcing it, the consistent memory usage history and consistent
> memory limit enforcement is very critical.
I'm having a hard time extracting anything concrete from your
explanation on why memsw is required. Can you please ELI5 with some
examples?
Thanks.
--
tejun
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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: memcontrol: memory+swap accounting for cgroup-v2
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:41:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171219214107.GR3919388@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7pbp0fFUPRnC68qdzkCEUg2YTavq6C6OLxqooCU5VeyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:25:12AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> Making the runtime environment, an invariant is very critical to make
> the management of a job easier whose instances run on different
> clusters across the world. Some clusters might have different type of
> swaps installed while some might not have one at all and the
> availability of the swap can be dynamic (i.e. swap medium outage).
>
> So, if users want to run multiple instances of a job across multiple
> clusters, they should be able to specify the limits of their jobs
> irrespective of the knowledge of cluster. The best case would be they
> just submits their jobs without any config and the system figures out
> the right limit and enforce that. And to figure out the right limit
> and enforcing it, the consistent memory usage history and consistent
> memory limit enforcement is very critical.
I'm having a hard time extracting anything concrete from your
explanation on why memsw is required. Can you please ELI5 with some
examples?
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-19 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-19 0:01 [RFC PATCH] mm: memcontrol: memory+swap accounting for cgroup-v2 Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 0:01 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 12:49 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-19 12:49 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-19 12:49 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-19 15:12 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 15:12 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 15:24 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-19 15:24 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-19 17:23 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 17:23 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 17:33 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-19 17:33 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20171219173354.GQ3919388-4dN5La/x3IkLX0oZNxdnEQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-19 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 21:41 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2017-12-19 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-19 22:39 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-19 22:39 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod5XRhXc3XrQw50Jw_OpRQB2iCCbgG-NMDCa8xRmGNdLrw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-20 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-20 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-20 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-20 20:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-20 20:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-20 20:27 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-20 20:27 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-20 23:36 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-20 23:36 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-21 1:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 1:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 13:37 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-21 13:37 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-21 15:22 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 15:22 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 15:33 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 15:33 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod432hzxPZgAypjPsZ33Z==0MxmMdPM3bEBZMea-7GFAVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-21 17:29 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-21 17:29 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-21 17:29 ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-27 19:49 ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-27 19:49 ` Shakeel Butt
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