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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>
Cc: Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, "Brandeburg,
	Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 23:33:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180302233231-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a628e3ed-3250-07a0-866a-a09909f9c642@intel.com>

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:56:21PM -0800, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/2/2018 12:44 PM, Siwei Liu wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 11:52:27AM -0800, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 3/2/2018 11:41 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 07:26:25AM -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > > > > > The design limits things to a 1:1 relationship since we just have the
> > > > > > child and backup pointers, but I don't think I am seeing exception
> > > > > > handling to prevent us from overwriting the child pointers so there
> > > > > > may be a leak there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Alex
> > > > > In fact maintaining a list in that case would be nicer, and
> > > > > just use an arbitrary one.
> > > > > E.g. one can see how a user wanting to swap device 1 for device 2
> > > > > might first add device 2 with same MAC then drop device 1.
> > > > It should be possible to swap VF1 with VF2 by
> > > > 1.- enabling virtio link
> > > > 2.- unplugging VF1
> > > > 3.- plugging VF2
> > > > 4.- disabling virtio link
> > > > 
> > > True, but it isn't hard to avoid breakage if user
> > > swapped steps 2 and 3. No need to make it more
> > > fragile that it has to be.
> > The migration case, VF2 is associated with another PF on another
> > machine (destination), I wonder how it is possible.
> > 
> > Even with local plugging of VF2 on the same PF, the MAC address
> > requirement (VF1's == VF2's) would fail the MAC address assignment on
> > VF2.
> > 
> > 
> I didn't include updating the MAC filter step in the above sequence.
> So definitely plugging 2 VFs with the same MAC address will be an issue.

If these are two separate PFs then I don't see why -
each has its own MAC filter.

> Here is the more complete sequence of steps that are required to
> enable live migration.

Replacing VF1 by VF2 is not about migration. It's to remove PF
from host e.g. for service.

-- 
MST

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>
Cc: Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, "Brandeburg,
	Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 23:33:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180302233231-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a628e3ed-3250-07a0-866a-a09909f9c642@intel.com>

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:56:21PM -0800, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/2/2018 12:44 PM, Siwei Liu wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 11:52:27AM -0800, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 3/2/2018 11:41 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 07:26:25AM -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > > > > > The design limits things to a 1:1 relationship since we just have the
> > > > > > child and backup pointers, but I don't think I am seeing exception
> > > > > > handling to prevent us from overwriting the child pointers so there
> > > > > > may be a leak there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Alex
> > > > > In fact maintaining a list in that case would be nicer, and
> > > > > just use an arbitrary one.
> > > > > E.g. one can see how a user wanting to swap device 1 for device 2
> > > > > might first add device 2 with same MAC then drop device 1.
> > > > It should be possible to swap VF1 with VF2 by
> > > > 1.- enabling virtio link
> > > > 2.- unplugging VF1
> > > > 3.- plugging VF2
> > > > 4.- disabling virtio link
> > > > 
> > > True, but it isn't hard to avoid breakage if user
> > > swapped steps 2 and 3. No need to make it more
> > > fragile that it has to be.
> > The migration case, VF2 is associated with another PF on another
> > machine (destination), I wonder how it is possible.
> > 
> > Even with local plugging of VF2 on the same PF, the MAC address
> > requirement (VF1's == VF2's) would fail the MAC address assignment on
> > VF2.
> > 
> > 
> I didn't include updating the MAC filter step in the above sequence.
> So definitely plugging 2 VFs with the same MAC address will be an issue.

If these are two separate PFs then I don't see why -
each has its own MAC filter.

> Here is the more complete sequence of steps that are required to
> enable live migration.

Replacing VF1 by VF2 is not about migration. It's to remove PF
from host e.g. for service.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-02 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-01 20:08 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-01 20:08 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-01 20:08 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-01 20:08   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-01 20:08 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-01 20:08   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-03-02  8:36   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-02 15:26     ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-02 15:26       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-02 16:20       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-02 16:37         ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 16:37           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 17:06           ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-02 17:06             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-02 19:42         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 19:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 20:49           ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 20:49             ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-03 11:31           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-03 18:04             ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-03 18:04               ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-03 21:25               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-04  0:26                 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-04  0:26                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-04  7:13                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-04 18:24                     ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-04 18:24                       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-04 18:50                       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-04 21:54                         ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-04 21:54                           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-04 21:58                         ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-04 21:58                           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-05  9:21                           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-05 16:11                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-05 22:30                               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-05 22:47                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-05 22:47                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-06  3:15                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-06 19:08                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-06 19:08                                       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-06 22:59                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-06 23:27                                         ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-06 23:27                                           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-07  2:38                                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-07  2:38                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-07 17:50                                             ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-07 17:50                                               ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-07 18:06                                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-07 18:55                                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-03-07 18:55                                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-07 20:11                                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-07 20:11                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-12 18:47                                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-12 18:47                                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 19:41       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 19:41         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 19:52         ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 19:52           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 20:10           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 20:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 20:44             ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 20:44               ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 20:56               ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 20:56                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 21:33                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-03-02 21:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 21:31               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 21:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 22:26                 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 22:26                   ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-04  4:00                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-04  4:00                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 21:11   ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 21:11     ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 21:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 21:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 23:56       ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 23:56         ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-04  4:04         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-04  4:04           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-12 21:53           ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-12 21:53             ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-02 23:12     ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-02 23:12       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-03  0:09       ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-03  0:09         ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-12 20:12   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-12 20:58     ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-12 20:58       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-12 21:08       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-14  0:36         ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-14  0:36           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-14  0:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-14 15:45           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-03-12 22:44   ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-12 22:44     ` Siwei Liu
2018-03-14  0:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-14  0:28       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-03-14  0:44       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14  0:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14  4:50       ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-03-14  4:50         ` Siwei Liu

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