From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Xiong Zhou <xzhou@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
fstests <fstests@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: ioctl FIBMAP for dax gone in v4.17-rc1
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:36:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180417233618.GB27893@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180417175007.GB5210@magnolia>
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:50:07AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:40:00AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:53:47AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:40:59PM +0800, Xiong Zhou wrote:
> > >>>> We got these in v4.17-rc1:
> > >>>> 6e2608d xfs, dax: introduce xfs_dax_aops
> > >>>> fb094c9 ext2, dax: introduce ext2_dax_aops
> > >>>> 5f0663b ext4, dax: introduce ext4_dax_aops
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And we don't have ->bmap call in these aops, which may lead
> > >>>> to the ioctl call failure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Do we have any plan of adding/supporting it ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> xfstests generic/223 covers this issue. If we are not going
> > >>>> to support this call for dax, we need to fix the testcase.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not supporting ->bmap is a good thing as it is hightly dangerous.
> > >>
> > >> I take this to mean "don't fix, it is another casualty of dax being
> > >> experimental and it won't be coming back". I can get on board with
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise, I was about to send a series adding bmap to {xfs,ext2,ext4}_dax_ops.
> > >
> > > Frankly I'd rather see the swapfile code learn how to iomap and then we
> > > can get rid of bmap in xfs entirely.
> >
> > Is anyone still using LILO to boot?
Yup. I do.
[ because grub has a history of corrupting filesystems on my
machines with it's obnoxious "probe for bootable OS images on update
by attempting to mount every block device in the system" behaviour. ]
> > It needed FIBMAP support to map the
> > kernel image for booting.
There's a difference between FIBMAP and ->bmap. One's a syscall
parameter under ABI constraints and the other is an internal
implementation.
We have to keep supporting FIBMAP forever, but we can re-implement
it internally using ->fiemap pretty damn easily - just replace the
bmap() implementation with a ->fiemap call and replace all the
direct ->bmap() calls with bmap(). Hence FIBMAP will continue to
work on all filesystems (including DAX!) and we get the ->bmap
crap out of the kernel.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
fstests <fstests@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ioctl FIBMAP for dax gone in v4.17-rc1
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:36:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180417233618.GB27893@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180417175007.GB5210@magnolia>
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:50:07AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:40:00AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:53:47AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:40:59PM +0800, Xiong Zhou wrote:
> > >>>> We got these in v4.17-rc1:
> > >>>> 6e2608d xfs, dax: introduce xfs_dax_aops
> > >>>> fb094c9 ext2, dax: introduce ext2_dax_aops
> > >>>> 5f0663b ext4, dax: introduce ext4_dax_aops
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And we don't have ->bmap call in these aops, which may lead
> > >>>> to the ioctl call failure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Do we have any plan of adding/supporting it ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> xfstests generic/223 covers this issue. If we are not going
> > >>>> to support this call for dax, we need to fix the testcase.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not supporting ->bmap is a good thing as it is hightly dangerous.
> > >>
> > >> I take this to mean "don't fix, it is another casualty of dax being
> > >> experimental and it won't be coming back". I can get on board with
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise, I was about to send a series adding bmap to {xfs,ext2,ext4}_dax_ops.
> > >
> > > Frankly I'd rather see the swapfile code learn how to iomap and then we
> > > can get rid of bmap in xfs entirely.
> >
> > Is anyone still using LILO to boot?
Yup. I do.
[ because grub has a history of corrupting filesystems on my
machines with it's obnoxious "probe for bootable OS images on update
by attempting to mount every block device in the system" behaviour. ]
> > It needed FIBMAP support to map the
> > kernel image for booting.
There's a difference between FIBMAP and ->bmap. One's a syscall
parameter under ABI constraints and the other is an internal
implementation.
We have to keep supporting FIBMAP forever, but we can re-implement
it internally using ->fiemap pretty damn easily - just replace the
bmap() implementation with a ->fiemap call and replace all the
direct ->bmap() calls with bmap(). Hence FIBMAP will continue to
work on all filesystems (including DAX!) and we get the ->bmap
crap out of the kernel.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-17 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-17 14:40 ioctl FIBMAP for dax gone in v4.17-rc1 Xiong Zhou
2018-04-17 14:40 ` Xiong Zhou
2018-04-17 16:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-17 16:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-17 16:53 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 16:53 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 16:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-04-17 16:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-04-17 17:05 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 17:05 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 17:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2018-04-17 17:47 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 17:47 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-17 17:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-04-17 17:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-04-17 23:34 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-17 23:34 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-17 23:36 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-04-17 23:36 ` Dave Chinner
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