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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 10:53:30 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180507135330.GS25013@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9i5uplt.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 08:31:58AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 05:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >> On 26.04.2018 13:45, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> > Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
> >> [...]
> >> >> @@ -260,6 +263,26 @@ static void test_abstract_interfaces(void)
> >> >>      qtest_end();
> >> >>  }
> >> >>  
> >> >> +static void add_machine_test_case(const char *mname)
> >> >> +{
> >> >> +    char *path, *args;
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    /* Ignore blacklisted machines */
> >> >> +    if (g_str_equal("xenfv", mname) || g_str_equal("xenpv", mname)) {
> >> >> +        return;
> >> >> +    }
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-defaults-%s", mname);
> >> >> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-machine %s", mname);
> >> >> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
> >> > 
> >> > This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-machine M" for all machine
> >> > types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
> >> > 
> >> >> +    g_free(path);
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-nodefaults-%s", mname);
> >> >> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-nodefaults -machine %s", mname);
> >> >> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
> >> > 
> >> > This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-nodefaults -machine M" for
> >> > all machine types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
> >> > 
> >> > Has "without -nodefaults" exposed additional bugs?
> >> 
> >> After testing this with all machines, I had to discover that
> >> "-nodefaults" does not work so easily: A lot of the embedded machines
> >> (especially the ARM machines) simply refuse to work with "-nodefaults"
> >> and exit immediately instead. E.g.:
> >> 
> >> $ arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -nodefaults -nographic -M n810,accel=qtest
> >> qemu-system-arm: missing SecureDigital device
> 
> These are all bugs.  --nodefaults is supposed to suppress *optional*
> devices, not mandatory ones.

I'm not sure I understand the requirements.  What exactly is the
definition of "mandatory"?

A machine created by "qemu-system-x86_64 -machine pc -nodefaults"
is useless because it has no any device to boot from.  How is
that different from a n810 machine not booting because there's no
SD device?

-- 
Eduardo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 10:53:30 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180507135330.GS25013@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9i5uplt.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 08:31:58AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 05:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >> On 26.04.2018 13:45, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> > Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
> >> [...]
> >> >> @@ -260,6 +263,26 @@ static void test_abstract_interfaces(void)
> >> >>      qtest_end();
> >> >>  }
> >> >>  
> >> >> +static void add_machine_test_case(const char *mname)
> >> >> +{
> >> >> +    char *path, *args;
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    /* Ignore blacklisted machines */
> >> >> +    if (g_str_equal("xenfv", mname) || g_str_equal("xenpv", mname)) {
> >> >> +        return;
> >> >> +    }
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-defaults-%s", mname);
> >> >> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-machine %s", mname);
> >> >> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
> >> > 
> >> > This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-machine M" for all machine
> >> > types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
> >> > 
> >> >> +    g_free(path);
> >> >> +
> >> >> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-nodefaults-%s", mname);
> >> >> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-nodefaults -machine %s", mname);
> >> >> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
> >> > 
> >> > This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-nodefaults -machine M" for
> >> > all machine types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
> >> > 
> >> > Has "without -nodefaults" exposed additional bugs?
> >> 
> >> After testing this with all machines, I had to discover that
> >> "-nodefaults" does not work so easily: A lot of the embedded machines
> >> (especially the ARM machines) simply refuse to work with "-nodefaults"
> >> and exit immediately instead. E.g.:
> >> 
> >> $ arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -nodefaults -nographic -M n810,accel=qtest
> >> qemu-system-arm: missing SecureDigital device
> 
> These are all bugs.  --nodefaults is supposed to suppress *optional*
> devices, not mandatory ones.

I'm not sure I understand the requirements.  What exactly is the
definition of "mandatory"?

A machine created by "qemu-system-x86_64 -machine pc -nodefaults"
is useless because it has no any device to boot from.  How is
that different from a n810 machine not booting because there's no
SD device?

-- 
Eduardo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-19  9:39 [Qemu-arm] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Thomas Huth
2018-03-19  9:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Thomas Huth
2018-03-19 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-19 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-17 12:12 ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-17 12:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-17 12:52   ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-04-17 12:52     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-04-17 13:15     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-17 13:15       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 10:24   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 10:24     ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 11:54     ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 11:54       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 15:27       ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 15:27         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  0:34       ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  0:34         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  3:45         ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  3:45           ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:06       ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test (was: [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:06         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:29         ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27  6:29           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27 10:20         ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test (was: [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 10:20           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 10:24           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] qom-test Thomas Huth
2018-04-27 10:24             ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27 16:30             ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27 16:30               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] qom-test Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27 16:36               ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-devel] qom-test Thomas Huth
2018-04-27 16:36                 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-arm] qom-test Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 11:45 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 11:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 15:20   ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 15:20     ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  0:32     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  0:32       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  3:52       ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  3:52         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:31       ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27  6:31         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27  7:31         ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  7:31           ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  8:05           ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27  8:05             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-07 13:53         ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-05-07 13:53           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-07 16:50           ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-05-07 16:50             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-07 17:02             ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 17:02               ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 17:04             ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-05-07 17:04               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-05-07 18:21             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-07 19:13               ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 19:13                 ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 19:32                 ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-07 19:32                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-08  5:33                   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios (was: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Thomas Huth
2018-05-08  5:33                     ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 10:47                     ` [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 10:47                       ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 16:40                     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios (was: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-08 16:40                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-09  7:41                       ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios Thomas Huth
2018-05-09  7:41                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Thomas Huth
2018-05-09 11:36                         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-09 11:36                           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-08  5:41                   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Markus Armbruster
2018-05-08  5:41                     ` Markus Armbruster

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