* [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request
@ 2018-11-21 15:58 Elvira Khabirova
2018-11-21 22:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Elvira Khabirova @ 2018-11-21 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: oleg, rostedt, mingo; +Cc: linux-kernel, ldv, esyr, luto, strace-devel
PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO lets ptracer obtain details of the syscall
the tracee is blocked in. The request returns meaningful data only
when the tracee is in a syscall-enter-stop or a syscall-exit-stop.
There are two reasons for a special syscall-related ptrace request.
Firstly, with the current ptrace API there are cases when ptracer cannot
retrieve necessary information about syscalls. Some examples include:
* The notorious int-0x80-from-64-bit-task issue. See [1] for details.
In short, if a 64-bit task performs a syscall through int 0x80, its tracer
has no reliable means to find out that the syscall was, in fact,
a compat syscall, and misidentifies it.
* Syscall-enter-stop and syscall-exit-stop look the same for the tracer.
Common practice is to keep track of the sequence of ptrace-stops in order
not to mix the two syscall-stops up. But it is not as simple as it looks;
for example, strace had a (just recently fixed) long-standing bug where
attaching strace to a tracee that is performing the execve system call
led to the tracer identifying the following syscall-exit-stop as
syscall-enter-stop, which messed up all the state tracking.
* Since the introduction of commit 84d77d3f06e7e8dea057d10e8ec77ad71f721be3
("ptrace: Don't allow accessing an undumpable mm"), both PTRACE_PEEKDATA
and process_vm_readv become unavailable when the process dumpable flag
is cleared. On such architectures as ia64 this results in all syscall
arguments being unavailable.
Secondly, ptracers also have to support a lot of arch-specific code for
obtaining information about the tracee. For some architectures, this
requires a ptrace(PTRACE_PEEKUSER, ...) invocation for every syscall
argument and return value.
PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO returns the following structure:
struct ptrace_syscall_info {
__u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */
__u8 __pad0[7];
union {
struct {
__s32 nr;
__u32 arch;
__u64 instruction_pointer;
__u64 args[6];
} entry_info;
struct {
__s64 rval;
__u8 is_error;
__u8 __pad1[7];
} exit_info;
};
};
The structure was chosen according to [2], except for one change:
a boolean is_error field is added along with rval. This way the tracer
can more reliably distinguish a return value from an error value.
This patch should be applied on top of [3] and [4].
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+55aFzcSVmdDj9Lh_gdbz1OzHyEm6ZrGPBDAJnywm2LF_eVyg@mail.gmail.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAObL_7GM0n80N7J_DFw_eQyfLyzq+sf4y2AvsCCV88Tb3AwEHA@mail.gmail.com/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181119210139.GA8360@altlinux.org/
[4] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181120001128.GA11300@altlinux.org/
Co-authored-by: Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org>
Signed-off-by: Elvira Khabirova <lineprinter@altlinux.org>
Signed-off-by: Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org>
---
Changes since v1:
* Do not use task->ptrace.
* Replace entry_info.is_compat with entry_info.arch, use syscall_get_arch().
* Use addr argument of sys_ptrace to get expected size of the struct;
return full size of the struct.
include/linux/ptrace.h | 8 ++++++
include/linux/tracehook.h | 9 ++++--
include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h | 20 +++++++++++++
kernel/ptrace.c | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4 files changed, 90 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/include/linux/ptrace.h b/include/linux/ptrace.h
index 6c2ffed907f5..909930c893d0 100644
--- a/include/linux/ptrace.h
+++ b/include/linux/ptrace.h
@@ -46,6 +46,14 @@ extern int ptrace_access_vm(struct task_struct *tsk, unsigned long addr,
#define PT_BLOCKSTEP_BIT 30
#define PT_BLOCKSTEP (1<<PT_BLOCKSTEP_BIT)
+/*
+ * These values are used by tracehook_report_syscall_* to store
+ * information about current syscall-stop in task->ptrace_message
+ * for later use by PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO.
+ */
+#define PT_SYSCALL_IS_ENTERING 0x80000000U
+#define PT_SYSCALL_IS_EXITING 0x90000000U
+
extern long arch_ptrace(struct task_struct *child, long request,
unsigned long addr, unsigned long data);
extern int ptrace_readdata(struct task_struct *tsk, unsigned long src, char __user *dst, int len);
diff --git a/include/linux/tracehook.h b/include/linux/tracehook.h
index 40b0b4c1bf7b..24d0e2215ed2 100644
--- a/include/linux/tracehook.h
+++ b/include/linux/tracehook.h
@@ -57,13 +57,15 @@ struct linux_binprm;
/*
* ptrace report for syscall entry and exit looks identical.
*/
-static inline int ptrace_report_syscall(struct pt_regs *regs)
+static inline int ptrace_report_syscall(struct pt_regs *regs,
+ unsigned long message)
{
int ptrace = current->ptrace;
if (!(ptrace & PT_PTRACED))
return 0;
+ current->ptrace_message = message;
ptrace_notify(SIGTRAP | ((ptrace & PT_TRACESYSGOOD) ? 0x80 : 0));
/*
@@ -76,6 +78,7 @@ static inline int ptrace_report_syscall(struct pt_regs *regs)
current->exit_code = 0;
}
+ current->ptrace_message = 0;
return fatal_signal_pending(current);
}
@@ -101,7 +104,7 @@ static inline int ptrace_report_syscall(struct pt_regs *regs)
static inline __must_check int tracehook_report_syscall_entry(
struct pt_regs *regs)
{
- return ptrace_report_syscall(regs);
+ return ptrace_report_syscall(regs, PT_SYSCALL_IS_ENTERING);
}
/**
@@ -126,7 +129,7 @@ static inline void tracehook_report_syscall_exit(struct pt_regs *regs, int step)
if (step)
user_single_step_report(regs);
else
- ptrace_report_syscall(regs);
+ ptrace_report_syscall(regs, PT_SYSCALL_IS_EXITING);
}
/**
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
index d5a1b8a492b9..3f19a4458309 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
@@ -73,6 +73,26 @@ struct seccomp_metadata {
__u64 flags; /* Output: filter's flags */
};
+#define PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO 0x420f
+
+struct ptrace_syscall_info {
+ __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */
+ __u8 __pad0[7];
+ union {
+ struct {
+ __s32 nr;
+ __u32 arch;
+ __u64 instruction_pointer;
+ __u64 args[6];
+ } entry_info;
+ struct {
+ __s64 rval;
+ __u8 is_error;
+ __u8 __pad1[7];
+ } exit_info;
+ };
+};
+
/* Read signals from a shared (process wide) queue */
#define PTRACE_PEEKSIGINFO_SHARED (1 << 0)
diff --git a/kernel/ptrace.c b/kernel/ptrace.c
index 80b34dffdfb9..7c2e92b6c762 100644
--- a/kernel/ptrace.c
+++ b/kernel/ptrace.c
@@ -30,6 +30,10 @@
#include <linux/cn_proc.h>
#include <linux/compat.h>
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
+#include <asm/syscall.h> /* For syscall_get_* */
+#endif
+
/*
* Access another process' address space via ptrace.
* Source/target buffer must be kernel space,
@@ -890,6 +894,52 @@ static int ptrace_regset(struct task_struct *task, int req, unsigned int type,
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(task_user_regset_view);
#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
+static int ptrace_get_syscall(struct task_struct *child,
+ unsigned long user_size, void __user *datavp)
+{
+ struct ptrace_syscall_info info;
+ struct pt_regs *regs = task_pt_regs(child);
+ unsigned long args[ARRAY_SIZE(info.entry_info.args)];
+ unsigned long actual_size;
+ unsigned long write_size;
+ int i;
+
+ switch (child->ptrace_message) {
+ case PT_SYSCALL_IS_ENTERING:
+ info.op = 0;
+ info.entry_info.arch = syscall_get_arch(child);
+ info.entry_info.nr = syscall_get_nr(child, regs);
+ info.entry_info.instruction_pointer =
+ instruction_pointer(task_pt_regs(child));
+ syscall_get_arguments(child, regs, 0, ARRAY_SIZE(args), args);
+ for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(args); i++)
+ info.entry_info.args[i] = args[i];
+ actual_size =
+ offsetofend(struct ptrace_syscall_info, entry_info);
+ break;
+
+ case PT_SYSCALL_IS_EXITING:
+ info.op = 1;
+ info.exit_info.rval = syscall_get_error(child, regs);
+ info.exit_info.is_error = !!info.exit_info.rval;
+ if (!info.exit_info.is_error) {
+ info.exit_info.rval =
+ syscall_get_return_value(child, regs);
+ }
+ actual_size =
+ offsetofend(struct ptrace_syscall_info, exit_info);
+ break;
+
+ default:
+ return -EINVAL;
+ }
+
+ write_size = min(actual_size, user_size);
+ return copy_to_user(datavp, &info, write_size) ? -EFAULT : actual_size;
+}
+#endif
+
int ptrace_request(struct task_struct *child, long request,
unsigned long addr, unsigned long data)
{
@@ -1105,6 +1155,12 @@ int ptrace_request(struct task_struct *child, long request,
ret = seccomp_get_metadata(child, addr, datavp);
break;
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
+ case PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO:
+ ret = ptrace_get_syscall(child, addr, datavp);
+ break;
+#endif
+
default:
break;
}
--
ldv
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-21 15:58 [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request Elvira Khabirova @ 2018-11-21 22:56 ` Andy Lutomirski [not found] ` <CALCETrV3TPCkYyhoLLcikXVeF-RdZUuLTCvKReK3Qb9LSS9Csw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-21 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Sasha Levin, Linux API, Jann Horn Cc: Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Dmitry V. Levin, Eugene Syromiatnikov, Andrew Lutomirski, strace-devel Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova <lineprinter@altlinux.org> wrote: > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ Can you add proper defines, like: #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework it later. > __u8 __pad0[7]; > union { > struct { > __s32 nr; __u64 please. Syscall numbers are, as a practical matter, 64 bits. Admittedly, the actual effects of setting the high bits are unclear, and seccomp has issues with it, but let's not perpetuate the problem. > __u32 arch; > __u64 instruction_pointer; > __u64 args[6]; > } entry_info; > struct { > __s64 rval; > __u8 is_error; > __u8 __pad1[7]; > } exit_info; > }; > }; Should seccomp events use entry_info or should they just literally supply seccomp_data? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-21 22:56 ` Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-21 23:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-21 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Eugene Syromiatnikov, Kees Cook, Jann Horn, Linux API, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, LKML, Sasha Levin, Ingo Molnar, strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2194 bytes --] On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > Please cc linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org for future versions. > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > it later. What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the same entry_info to return. As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > __u8 __pad0[7]; > > union { > > struct { > > __s32 nr; > > __u64 please. Syscall numbers are, as a practical matter, 64 bits. > Admittedly, the actual effects of setting the high bits are unclear, > and seccomp has issues with it, but let's not perpetuate the problem. I agree. Although the implementation uses syscall_get_nr() which returns int, this could potentially be fixed in the future. > > __u32 arch; > > __u64 instruction_pointer; > > __u64 args[6]; > > } entry_info; > > struct { > > __s64 rval; > > __u8 is_error; > > __u8 __pad1[7]; > > } exit_info; > > }; > > }; > > Should seccomp events use entry_info or should they just literally > supply seccomp_data? It certainly can use entry_info. I'd prefer to avoid using in uapi/linux/ptrace.h those types that are defined in uapi/linux/seccomp.h. -- ldv [-- Attachment #1.2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 137 bytes --] -- Strace-devel mailing list Strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw@public.gmane.org https://lists.strace.io/mailman/listinfo/strace-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request @ 2018-11-21 23:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-21 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Sasha Levin, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2170 bytes --] On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > it later. What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the same entry_info to return. As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > __u8 __pad0[7]; > > union { > > struct { > > __s32 nr; > > __u64 please. Syscall numbers are, as a practical matter, 64 bits. > Admittedly, the actual effects of setting the high bits are unclear, > and seccomp has issues with it, but let's not perpetuate the problem. I agree. Although the implementation uses syscall_get_nr() which returns int, this could potentially be fixed in the future. > > __u32 arch; > > __u64 instruction_pointer; > > __u64 args[6]; > > } entry_info; > > struct { > > __s64 rval; > > __u8 is_error; > > __u8 __pad1[7]; > > } exit_info; > > }; > > }; > > Should seccomp events use entry_info or should they just literally > supply seccomp_data? It certainly can use entry_info. I'd prefer to avoid using in uapi/linux/ptrace.h those types that are defined in uapi/linux/seccomp.h. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-21 23:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin (?) @ 2018-11-22 14:55 ` Andy Lutomirski [not found] ` <CALCETrXea_uRAqw_srW5CWgOzeM=RubaDbjnxZ=cUMy5Zv1TsA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> -1 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-22 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry V. Levin Cc: Andrew Lutomirski, Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Sasha Levin, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > it later. > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > same entry_info to return. I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop > from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop > from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot > distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. Hmm. PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO should fail for PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT, I think. > > > > __u8 __pad0[7]; > > > union { > > > struct { > > > __s32 nr; > > > > __u64 please. Syscall numbers are, as a practical matter, 64 bits. > > Admittedly, the actual effects of setting the high bits are unclear, > > and seccomp has issues with it, but let's not perpetuate the problem. > > I agree. Although the implementation uses syscall_get_nr() > which returns int, this could potentially be fixed in the future. Agreed. Although if we ever start using those high bits, things will get confusing. > > > > __u32 arch; > > > __u64 instruction_pointer; > > > __u64 args[6]; > > > } entry_info; > > > struct { > > > __s64 rval; > > > __u8 is_error; > > > __u8 __pad1[7]; > > > } exit_info; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > Should seccomp events use entry_info or should they just literally > > supply seccomp_data? > > It certainly can use entry_info. > I'd prefer to avoid using in uapi/linux/ptrace.h those types > that are defined in uapi/linux/seccomp.h. Makes sense to me. Also, it's possible in principle to extend seccomp_data with other fields that are only generated if they're read, so passing struct seccomp_data to userspace as a struct may be the wrong thing to do. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-22 14:55 ` Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-22 19:15 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-22 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Eugene Syromiatnikov, Kees Cook, Jann Horn, Linux API, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, LKML, Ingo Molnar, strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1928 bytes --] On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > Please cc linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org for future versions. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > it later. > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > same entry_info to return. > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop > > from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop > > from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot > > distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > Hmm. PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO should fail for PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT, I think. Unless we can change PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP to set some higher bits of ptrace_message (beyond SECCOMP_RET_DATA) which is very unlikely because it would qualify as an ABI change, this would require an additional field in struct task_struct because ptrace_message wouldn't be enough to distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. -- ldv [-- Attachment #1.2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 137 bytes --] -- Strace-devel mailing list Strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw@public.gmane.org https://lists.strace.io/mailman/listinfo/strace-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request @ 2018-11-22 19:15 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-22 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1904 bytes --] On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > it later. > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > same entry_info to return. > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop > > from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop > > from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot > > distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > Hmm. PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO should fail for PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT, I think. Unless we can change PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP to set some higher bits of ptrace_message (beyond SECCOMP_RET_DATA) which is very unlikely because it would qualify as an ABI change, this would require an additional field in struct task_struct because ptrace_message wouldn't be enough to distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-22 19:15 ` Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-23 0:19 ` Andy Lutomirski -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-23 0:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry V. Levin Cc: Eugene Syromiatnikov, Kees Cook, Jann Horn, Linux API, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, LKML, Andrew Lutomirski, Ingo Molnar, strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin <ldv-u2l5PoMzF/Vg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > Please cc linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > it later. > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. > > > > As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop > > > from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop > > > from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot > > > distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > > > Hmm. PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO should fail for PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT, I think. > > Unless we can change PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP to set some higher bits of > ptrace_message (beyond SECCOMP_RET_DATA) which is very unlikely because > it would qualify as an ABI change, this would require an additional field > in struct task_struct because ptrace_message wouldn't be enough > to distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. At the risk of making the patch more complicated, there's room to massively clean up the ptrace state. We could add a struct ptrace_tracee and put a struct ptrace_tracee *ptrace_tracee into task_struct. The struct would contain a pointer to the task_struct as well as ptrace (the flag field, I think), ptrace_entry, ptracer_cred, ptrace_message, and last_siginfo. And then we could add a field for the ptrace stop state that would indicate the actual reason for the current stop. We'd only allocate ptrace_tracee when someone attaches with ptrace, thus saving quite a few bytes for each task. It's a bit unfortunate if we allow PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO to success if the event is PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. I'd also be a bit nervous about info leaks if we start calling the syscall accessors for tasks that aren't in syscalls. --Andy -- Strace-devel mailing list Strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw@public.gmane.org https://lists.strace.io/mailman/listinfo/strace-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request @ 2018-11-23 0:19 ` Andy Lutomirski 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-23 0:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry V. Levin Cc: Andrew Lutomirski, Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > it later. > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. > > > > As long as implementation (ab)uses ptrace_message to tell one kind of stop > > > from another, it can distinguish syscall-entry-stop and syscall-exit-stop > > > from each other and from many other kinds of stops, but it cannot > > > distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from e.g. PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. > > > > Hmm. PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO should fail for PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT, I think. > > Unless we can change PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP to set some higher bits of > ptrace_message (beyond SECCOMP_RET_DATA) which is very unlikely because > it would qualify as an ABI change, this would require an additional field > in struct task_struct because ptrace_message wouldn't be enough > to distinguish PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP from PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. At the risk of making the patch more complicated, there's room to massively clean up the ptrace state. We could add a struct ptrace_tracee and put a struct ptrace_tracee *ptrace_tracee into task_struct. The struct would contain a pointer to the task_struct as well as ptrace (the flag field, I think), ptrace_entry, ptracer_cred, ptrace_message, and last_siginfo. And then we could add a field for the ptrace stop state that would indicate the actual reason for the current stop. We'd only allocate ptrace_tracee when someone attaches with ptrace, thus saving quite a few bytes for each task. It's a bit unfortunate if we allow PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO to success if the event is PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT. I'd also be a bit nervous about info leaks if we start calling the syscall accessors for tasks that aren't in syscalls. --Andy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-23 0:19 ` Andy Lutomirski @ 2018-11-23 4:01 ` Dmitry V. Levin -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-23 4:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Eugene Syromiatnikov, Kees Cook, Jann Horn, Linux API, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, LKML, Ingo Molnar, strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2300 bytes --] On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:10PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin <ldv-u2l5PoMzF/Vg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > Please cc linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > > it later. > > > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. If these structures ever diverge, then a seccomp structure will be added to the union, and a portable userspace code will likely look this way: #include <linux/ptrace.h> ... struct ptrace_syscall_info info; long rc = ptrace(PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO, pid, (void *) sizeof(info), &info); ... switch (info.op) { case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY: /* handle info.entry */ case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_EXIT: /* handle info.exit */ #ifdef PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP: /* handle info.seccomp */ #endif default: /* handle unknown info.op */ } In other words, it would be better if PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_* selector constants were introduced along with corresponding structures in the union. -- ldv [-- Attachment #1.2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 137 bytes --] -- Strace-devel mailing list Strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw@public.gmane.org https://lists.strace.io/mailman/listinfo/strace-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request @ 2018-11-23 4:01 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-23 4:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2249 bytes --] On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:10PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > > it later. > > > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. If these structures ever diverge, then a seccomp structure will be added to the union, and a portable userspace code will likely look this way: #include <linux/ptrace.h> ... struct ptrace_syscall_info info; long rc = ptrace(PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO, pid, (void *) sizeof(info), &info); ... switch (info.op) { case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY: /* handle info.entry */ case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_EXIT: /* handle info.exit */ #ifdef PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP: /* handle info.seccomp */ #endif default: /* handle unknown info.op */ } In other words, it would be better if PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_* selector constants were introduced along with corresponding structures in the union. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-23 4:01 ` Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-25 4:10 ` Dmitry V. Levin -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-25 4:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Eugene Syromiatnikov, Kees Cook, Jann Horn, Linux API, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, LKML, Ingo Molnar, strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3266 bytes --] On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 07:01:39AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:10PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > > Please cc linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > > > it later. > > > > > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > > > > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > > > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > > > Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. > > If these structures ever diverge, then a seccomp structure will be added > to the union, and a portable userspace code will likely look this way: > > #include <linux/ptrace.h> > ... > struct ptrace_syscall_info info; > long rc = ptrace(PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO, pid, (void *) sizeof(info), &info); > ... > switch (info.op) { > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY: > /* handle info.entry */ > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_EXIT: > /* handle info.exit */ > #ifdef PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP: > /* handle info.seccomp */ > #endif > default: > /* handle unknown info.op */ > } > > In other words, it would be better if PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_* selector > constants were introduced along with corresponding structures in the > union. However, the approach I suggested doesn't provide forward compatibility: if userspace is compiled with kernel headers that don't define PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP, it will break when the kernel starts to use PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP instead of PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY for PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. The solution is to introduce PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP and struct ptrace_syscall_info.seccomp along with PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. The initial revision of the seccomp structure could be made the same as the entry structure, or it can diverge from the beginning, e.g., by adding ret_data field containing SECCOMP_RET_DATA return value stored in ptrace_message, this would save ptracers an extra PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG call currently required to obtain it. -- ldv [-- Attachment #1.2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 137 bytes --] -- Strace-devel mailing list Strace-devel-3+4lAyCyj6AWlMsSdNXQLw@public.gmane.org https://lists.strace.io/mailman/listinfo/strace-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request @ 2018-11-25 4:10 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2018-11-25 4:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Elvira Khabirova, Kees Cook, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3242 bytes --] On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 07:01:39AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:10PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { > > > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: > > > > > > > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 > > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an > > > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework > > > > > > it later. > > > > > > > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop > > > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the > > > > > same entry_info to return. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. > > > > > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field > > > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. > > > > Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. > > If these structures ever diverge, then a seccomp structure will be added > to the union, and a portable userspace code will likely look this way: > > #include <linux/ptrace.h> > ... > struct ptrace_syscall_info info; > long rc = ptrace(PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO, pid, (void *) sizeof(info), &info); > ... > switch (info.op) { > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY: > /* handle info.entry */ > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_EXIT: > /* handle info.exit */ > #ifdef PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP > case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP: > /* handle info.seccomp */ > #endif > default: > /* handle unknown info.op */ > } > > In other words, it would be better if PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_* selector > constants were introduced along with corresponding structures in the > union. However, the approach I suggested doesn't provide forward compatibility: if userspace is compiled with kernel headers that don't define PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP, it will break when the kernel starts to use PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP instead of PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY for PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. The solution is to introduce PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP and struct ptrace_syscall_info.seccomp along with PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. The initial revision of the seccomp structure could be made the same as the entry structure, or it can diverge from the beginning, e.g., by adding ret_data field containing SECCOMP_RET_DATA return value stored in ptrace_message, this would save ptracers an extra PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG call currently required to obtain it. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 801 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptrace: add PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request 2018-11-25 4:10 ` Dmitry V. Levin (?) @ 2018-11-27 22:28 ` Kees Cook -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Kees Cook @ 2018-11-27 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry V. Levin Cc: Andy Lutomirski, Elvira Khabirova, Linux API, Jann Horn, Oleg Nesterov, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, LKML, Eugene Syromiatnikov, strace-devel On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 07:01:39AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:10PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:55:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:56 PM Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> > > > > > Please cc linux-api@vger.kernel.org for future versions. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:58 AM Elvira Khabirova wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > struct ptrace_syscall_info { >> > > > > > > __u8 op; /* 0 for entry, 1 for exit */ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Can you add proper defines, like: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_ENTRY 0 >> > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_EXIT 1 >> > > > > > #define PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP 2 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > and make seccomp work from the start? I'd rather we don't merge an >> > > > > > implementation that doesn't work for seccomp and then have to rework >> > > > > > it later. Yes, please. >> > > > > >> > > > > What's the difference between PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP and syscall-entry-stop >> > > > > with regards to PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO request? At least they have the >> > > > > same entry_info to return. >> > > > >> > > > I'm not sure there's any material difference. >> > > >> > > In that case we don't really need PTRACE_SYSCALL_SECCOMP: op field >> > > describes the structure inside the union to use, not the ptrace stop. >> > >> > Unless we think the structures might diverge in the future. Yes, I want to make sure we have a way to expand this, especially for seccomp: we've come close a few times to adding new fields to struct seccomp_data, for example. >> >> If these structures ever diverge, then a seccomp structure will be added >> to the union, and a portable userspace code will likely look this way: >> >> #include <linux/ptrace.h> >> ... >> struct ptrace_syscall_info info; >> long rc = ptrace(PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO, pid, (void *) sizeof(info), &info); >> ... >> switch (info.op) { >> case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY: >> /* handle info.entry */ >> case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_EXIT: >> /* handle info.exit */ >> #ifdef PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP >> case PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP: >> /* handle info.seccomp */ >> #endif >> default: >> /* handle unknown info.op */ >> } >> >> In other words, it would be better if PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_* selector >> constants were introduced along with corresponding structures in the >> union. > > However, the approach I suggested doesn't provide forward compatibility: > if userspace is compiled with kernel headers that don't define > PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP, it will break when the kernel > starts to use PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP instead of > PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_ENTRY for PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support > in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. > > The solution is to introduce PTRACE_SYSCALL_INFO_SECCOMP and struct > ptrace_syscall_info.seccomp along with PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP support > in PTRACE_GET_SYSCALL_INFO. The initial revision of the seccomp > structure could be made the same as the entry structure, or it can > diverge from the beginning, e.g., by adding ret_data field containing > SECCOMP_RET_DATA return value stored in ptrace_message, this would save > ptracers an extra PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG call currently required to obtain it. Yup, that'd be a nice addition. -- Kees Cook ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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