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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	frowand.list@gmail.com, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, tnowicki@caviumnetworks.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, marc.zyngier@arm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com,
	bharat.bhushan@nxp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] Add virtio-iommu driver
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:35:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212093413-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212103545.GV16835@8bytes.org>

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:35:45AM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> to make progress on this, we should first agree on the protocol used
> between guest and host. I have a few points to discuss on the protocol
> first.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 06:20:57PM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > [1] Virtio-iommu specification v0.9, sources and pdf
> >     git://linux-arm.org/virtio-iommu.git virtio-iommu/v0.9
> >     http://jpbrucker.net/virtio-iommu/spec/v0.9/virtio-iommu-v0.9.pdf
> 
> Looking at this I wonder why it doesn't make the IOTLB visible to the
> guest. the UNMAP requests seem to require that the TLB is already
> flushed to make the unmap visible.
> 
> I think that will cost significant performance for both, vfio and
> dma-iommu use-cases which both do (vfio at least to some degree),
> deferred flushing.
> 
> I also wonder whether the protocol should implement a
> protocol version handshake

virtio has a builtin version handshake so devices don't need to.

> and iommu-feature set queries.
> 
> > [3] git://linux-arm.org/linux-jpb.git virtio-iommu/v0.9.1
> >     git://linux-arm.org/kvmtool-jpb.git virtio-iommu/v0.9
> 
> Unfortunatly gitweb seems to be broken on linux-arm.org. What is missing
> in this patch-set to make this work on x86?

And I wonder about pcc too.

> Regards,
> 
> 	Joerg

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	frowand.list@gmail.com, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, tnowicki@caviumnetworks.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, marc.zyngier@arm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com,
	bharat.bhushan@nxp.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] Add virtio-iommu driver
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:35:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212093413-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212103545.GV16835@8bytes.org>

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:35:45AM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> to make progress on this, we should first agree on the protocol used
> between guest and host. I have a few points to discuss on the protocol
> first.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 06:20:57PM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > [1] Virtio-iommu specification v0.9, sources and pdf
> >     git://linux-arm.org/virtio-iommu.git virtio-iommu/v0.9
> >     http://jpbrucker.net/virtio-iommu/spec/v0.9/virtio-iommu-v0.9.pdf
> 
> Looking at this I wonder why it doesn't make the IOTLB visible to the
> guest. the UNMAP requests seem to require that the TLB is already
> flushed to make the unmap visible.
> 
> I think that will cost significant performance for both, vfio and
> dma-iommu use-cases which both do (vfio at least to some degree),
> deferred flushing.
> 
> I also wonder whether the protocol should implement a
> protocol version handshake

virtio has a builtin version handshake so devices don't need to.

> and iommu-feature set queries.
> 
> > [3] git://linux-arm.org/linux-jpb.git virtio-iommu/v0.9.1
> >     git://linux-arm.org/kvmtool-jpb.git virtio-iommu/v0.9
> 
> Unfortunatly gitweb seems to be broken on linux-arm.org. What is missing
> in this patch-set to make this work on x86?

And I wonder about pcc too.

> Regards,
> 
> 	Joerg

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-11 18:20 [PATCH v6 0/7] Add virtio-iommu driver Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] dt-bindings: virtio-mmio: Add IOMMU description Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] dt-bindings: virtio: Add virtio-pci-iommu node Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:20   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] of: Allow the iommu-map property to omit untranslated devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] PCI: OF: Initialize dev->fwnode appropriately Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] iommu: Add virtio-iommu driver Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] iommu/virtio: Add probe request Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] iommu/virtio: Add event queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20181211182104.18241-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-11 18:31   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Add virtio-iommu driver Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-11 18:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-11 19:07     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 19:07       ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-11 19:07     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-12  0:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-12  0:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-12  0:39       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-11 18:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2018-12-12 10:35   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-12-12 14:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-12 14:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-12-12 14:35     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 12:50   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-13 12:50     ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-13 12:50     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-13 14:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-13 14:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-13 14:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-19 23:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-19 23:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-19 23:09       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-19 23:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-20 17:59       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-20 17:59       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-20 17:59         ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-20 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-20 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-20 18:17           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-20 18:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-11 12:28     ` Joerg Roedel
2019-01-11 12:28       ` Joerg Roedel
2019-01-11 13:00       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-01-11 13:00       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-01-11 13:00         ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-01-11 13:00         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-01-11 12:28     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-12-13 12:50   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-12-12 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel

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