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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 12:35:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190503023511.GI13618@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bm0ktn1q.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

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On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:10:57AM +1000, Stewart Smith wrote:
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> > On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 01:42:21PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> >> At the moment, on 256CPU + 256 PCI devices guest, it takes the guest
> >> about 8.5sec to fetch the entire device tree via the client interface
> >> as the DT is traversed twice - for strings blob and for struct blob.
> >> Also, "getprop" is quite slow too as SLOF stores properties in a linked
> >> list.
> >> 
> >> However, since [1] SLOF builds flattened device tree (FDT) for another
> >> purpose. [2] adds a new "fdt-fetch" client interface for the OS to fetch
> >> the FDT.
> >> 
> >> This tries the new method; if not supported, this falls back to
> >> the old method.
> >> 
> >> There is a change in the FDT layout - the old method produced
> >> (reserved map, strings, structs), the new one receives only strings and
> >> structs from the firmware and adds the final reserved map to the end,
> >> so it is (fw reserved map, strings, structs, reserved map).
> >> This still produces the same unflattened device tree.
> >> 
> >> This merges the reserved map from the firmware into the kernel's reserved
> >> map. At the moment SLOF generates an empty reserved map so this does not
> >> change the existing behaviour in regard of reservations.
> >> 
> >> This supports only v17 onward as only that version provides dt_struct_size
> >> which works as "fdt-fetch" only produces v17 blobs.
> >> 
> >> If "fdt-fetch" is not available, the old method of fetching the DT is used.
> >> 
> >> [1] https://git.qemu.org/?p=SLOF.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6fc84652c9c00
> >> [2] https://git.qemu.org/?p=SLOF.git;a=commit;h=ecda95906930b80
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
> >
> > Hrm.  I've gotta say I'm not terribly convinced that it's worth adding
> > a new interface we'll need to maintain to save 8s on a somewhat
> > contrived testcase.
> 
> 256CPUs aren't that many anymore though. Although I guess that many PCI
> devices is still a little uncommon.

Yeah, it was the PCI devices I was meaning, not the cpus.

> A 4 socket POWER8 or POWER9 can easily be that large, and a small test
> kernel/userspace will boot in ~2.5-4 seconds. So it's possible that
> the device tree fetch could be surprisingly non-trivial percentage of boot
> time at least on some machines.
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-03  4:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-01  3:42 [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-02  4:27 ` David Gibson
2019-05-03  0:10   ` Stewart Smith
2019-05-03  2:35     ` David Gibson [this message]
2019-05-06  2:21       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-03 15:35     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-03 15:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-30  7:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-30 19:37   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-31  1:03     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-02 23:23       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-03  2:56         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-03 21:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-03 23:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04  0:32               ` David Gibson
2019-06-03 23:42           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04  0:18             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-04  5:00             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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