From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:23:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190602232330.GN31586@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43f037c57eed8ad2175470c940917dced947bb70.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
Hi!
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:03:26AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 14:37 -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 05:09:06PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > so, it is sort-of nack from David and sort-of ack from Segher, what
> > > happens now?
> >
> > Maybe what we really need just a CI call to get all properties of a node
> > at once? Will that speed up things enough?
> >
> > That way you need no change at all in lifetime of properties and how they
> > are used, etc.; just a client getting the properties is a lot faster.
>
> Hrm... if we're going to create a new interface, let's go for what we
> need.
>
> What we need is the FDT. It's a rather ubiquitous thing these days, it
> makes sense to have a way to fetch an FDT directly from FW.
That is all you need if you do not want to use OF at all.
If you *do* want to keep having an Open Firmware, what we want or need
is a faster way to walk huge device trees.
> There is no use for the "fetch all properties" cases other than
> building an FDT that any of us can think of, and it would create a more
> complicated interface than just "fetch an FDT".
It is a simple way to speed up fetching the device tree enormously,
without needing big changes to either OF or the clients using it -- not
in the code, but importantly also not conceptually: everything works just
as before, just a lot faster.
> So I go for the simple one and agree with Alexey's idea.
When dealing with a whole device tree you have to know about the various
dynamically generated nodes and props, and handle each appropriately.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-02 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-01 3:42 [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-02 4:27 ` David Gibson
2019-05-03 0:10 ` Stewart Smith
2019-05-03 2:35 ` David Gibson
2019-05-06 2:21 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-03 15:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-03 15:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-30 7:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-30 19:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-31 1:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-02 23:23 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-06-03 2:56 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-03 21:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-03 23:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04 0:32 ` David Gibson
2019-06-03 23:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04 0:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-04 5:00 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
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