From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 10:35:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190503153510.GO8599@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bm0ktn1q.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:10:57AM +1000, Stewart Smith wrote:
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> > On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 01:42:21PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> >> At the moment, on 256CPU + 256 PCI devices guest, it takes the guest
> >> about 8.5sec to fetch the entire device tree via the client interface
> >> as the DT is traversed twice - for strings blob and for struct blob.
> >> Also, "getprop" is quite slow too as SLOF stores properties in a linked
> >> list.
> >>
> >> However, since [1] SLOF builds flattened device tree (FDT) for another
> >> purpose. [2] adds a new "fdt-fetch" client interface for the OS to fetch
> >> the FDT.
> >>
> >> This tries the new method; if not supported, this falls back to
> >> the old method.
> >>
> >> There is a change in the FDT layout - the old method produced
> >> (reserved map, strings, structs), the new one receives only strings and
> >> structs from the firmware and adds the final reserved map to the end,
> >> so it is (fw reserved map, strings, structs, reserved map).
> >> This still produces the same unflattened device tree.
> >>
> >> This merges the reserved map from the firmware into the kernel's reserved
> >> map. At the moment SLOF generates an empty reserved map so this does not
> >> change the existing behaviour in regard of reservations.
> >>
> >> This supports only v17 onward as only that version provides dt_struct_size
> >> which works as "fdt-fetch" only produces v17 blobs.
> >>
> >> If "fdt-fetch" is not available, the old method of fetching the DT is used.
> >>
> >> [1] https://git.qemu.org/?p=SLOF.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6fc84652c9c00
> >> [2] https://git.qemu.org/?p=SLOF.git;a=commit;h=ecda95906930b80
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
> >
> > Hrm. I've gotta say I'm not terribly convinced that it's worth adding
> > a new interface we'll need to maintain to save 8s on a somewhat
> > contrived testcase.
>
> 256CPUs aren't that many anymore though. Although I guess that many PCI
> devices is still a little uncommon.
>
> A 4 socket POWER8 or POWER9 can easily be that large, and a small test
> kernel/userspace will boot in ~2.5-4 seconds. So it's possible that
> the device tree fetch could be surprisingly non-trivial percentage of boot
> time at least on some machines.
All client interface calls are really heavy, and you need to do a lot of
them if you have a big device tree. This takes time, even if the linked
list stuff does not kill you :-)
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-03 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-01 3:42 [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-02 4:27 ` David Gibson
2019-05-03 0:10 ` Stewart Smith
2019-05-03 2:35 ` David Gibson
2019-05-06 2:21 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-03 15:35 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-05-03 15:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-30 7:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-30 19:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-31 1:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-02 23:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-03 2:56 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-03 21:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-03 23:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04 0:32 ` David Gibson
2019-06-03 23:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04 0:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-04 5:00 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
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