From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
x86@kernel.org, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] implement DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 09:05:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190506070544.GA66463@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1afb0702-3cc5-ba4f-2bdd-604d9da2b846@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
* Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk> wrote:
> On 09/04/2019 23.25, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
>
> > While refreshing these patches, which were orignally just targeted at
> > x86-64, it occured to me that despite the implementation relying on
> > inline asm, there's nothing x86 specific about it, and indeed it seems
> > to work out-of-the-box for ppc64 and arm64 as well, but those have
> > only been compile-tested.
>
> So, apart from the Clang build failures for non-x86, I now also got a
> report that gcc 4.8 miscompiles this stuff in some cases [1], even for
> x86 - gcc 4.9 does not seem to have the problem. So, given that the 5.2
> merge window just opened, I suppose this is the point where I should
> pull the plug on this experiment :(
>
> Rasmus
>
> [1] Specifically, the problem manifested in net/ipv4/tcp_input.c: Both
> uses of the static inline inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() pass a
> compile-time constant 'what', so the ifs get folded away and both uses
> are completely inlined. Yet, gcc still decides to emit a copy of the
> final 'else' branch of inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() as its own
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55 function, which is of course unused.
> And despite the asm() that defines the ddebug descriptor being an "asm
> volatile", gcc thinks it's fine to elide that (the code path is
> unreachable, after all....), so the entire asm for that function is
>
> .section .text.unlikely
> .type inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55, @function
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55:
> movq $.LC1, %rsi #,
> movq $__UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160, %rdi #,
> xorl %eax, %eax #
> jmp __dynamic_pr_debug #
> .size inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55,
> .-inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55
>
> which of course fails to link since the symbol __UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160 is
> nowhere defined.
It's sad to see such nice data footprint savings go the way of the dodo
just because GCC 4.8 is buggy.
The current compatibility cut-off is GCC 4.6:
GNU C 4.6 gcc --version
Do we know where the GCC bug was fixed, was it in GCC 4.9?
According to the GCC release dates:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html
4.8.0 was released in early-2013, while 4.9.0 was released in early-2014.
So the tooling compatibility window for latest upstream would narrow from
~6 years to ~5 years.
Thanks,
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
x86@kernel.org, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] implement DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 09:05:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190506070544.GA66463@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1afb0702-3cc5-ba4f-2bdd-604d9da2b846@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
* Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk> wrote:
> On 09/04/2019 23.25, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
>
> > While refreshing these patches, which were orignally just targeted at
> > x86-64, it occured to me that despite the implementation relying on
> > inline asm, there's nothing x86 specific about it, and indeed it seems
> > to work out-of-the-box for ppc64 and arm64 as well, but those have
> > only been compile-tested.
>
> So, apart from the Clang build failures for non-x86, I now also got a
> report that gcc 4.8 miscompiles this stuff in some cases [1], even for
> x86 - gcc 4.9 does not seem to have the problem. So, given that the 5.2
> merge window just opened, I suppose this is the point where I should
> pull the plug on this experiment :(
>
> Rasmus
>
> [1] Specifically, the problem manifested in net/ipv4/tcp_input.c: Both
> uses of the static inline inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() pass a
> compile-time constant 'what', so the ifs get folded away and both uses
> are completely inlined. Yet, gcc still decides to emit a copy of the
> final 'else' branch of inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() as its own
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55 function, which is of course unused.
> And despite the asm() that defines the ddebug descriptor being an "asm
> volatile", gcc thinks it's fine to elide that (the code path is
> unreachable, after all....), so the entire asm for that function is
>
> .section .text.unlikely
> .type inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55, @function
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55:
> movq $.LC1, %rsi #,
> movq $__UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160, %rdi #,
> xorl %eax, %eax #
> jmp __dynamic_pr_debug #
> .size inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55,
> .-inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55
>
> which of course fails to link since the symbol __UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160 is
> nowhere defined.
It's sad to see such nice data footprint savings go the way of the dodo
just because GCC 4.8 is buggy.
The current compatibility cut-off is GCC 4.6:
GNU C 4.6 gcc --version
Do we know where the GCC bug was fixed, was it in GCC 4.9?
According to the GCC release dates:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html
4.8.0 was released in early-2013, while 4.9.0 was released in early-2014.
So the tooling compatibility window for latest upstream would narrow from
~6 years to ~5 years.
Thanks,
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] implement DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 09:05:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190506070544.GA66463@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1afb0702-3cc5-ba4f-2bdd-604d9da2b846@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
* Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk> wrote:
> On 09/04/2019 23.25, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
>
> > While refreshing these patches, which were orignally just targeted at
> > x86-64, it occured to me that despite the implementation relying on
> > inline asm, there's nothing x86 specific about it, and indeed it seems
> > to work out-of-the-box for ppc64 and arm64 as well, but those have
> > only been compile-tested.
>
> So, apart from the Clang build failures for non-x86, I now also got a
> report that gcc 4.8 miscompiles this stuff in some cases [1], even for
> x86 - gcc 4.9 does not seem to have the problem. So, given that the 5.2
> merge window just opened, I suppose this is the point where I should
> pull the plug on this experiment :(
>
> Rasmus
>
> [1] Specifically, the problem manifested in net/ipv4/tcp_input.c: Both
> uses of the static inline inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() pass a
> compile-time constant 'what', so the ifs get folded away and both uses
> are completely inlined. Yet, gcc still decides to emit a copy of the
> final 'else' branch of inet_csk_clear_xmit_timer() as its own
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55 function, which is of course unused.
> And despite the asm() that defines the ddebug descriptor being an "asm
> volatile", gcc thinks it's fine to elide that (the code path is
> unreachable, after all....), so the entire asm for that function is
>
> .section .text.unlikely
> .type inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55, @function
> inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55:
> movq $.LC1, %rsi #,
> movq $__UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160, %rdi #,
> xorl %eax, %eax #
> jmp __dynamic_pr_debug #
> .size inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55,
> .-inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer.part.55
>
> which of course fails to link since the symbol __UNIQUE_ID_ddebug160 is
> nowhere defined.
It's sad to see such nice data footprint savings go the way of the dodo
just because GCC 4.8 is buggy.
The current compatibility cut-off is GCC 4.6:
GNU C 4.6 gcc --version
Do we know where the GCC bug was fixed, was it in GCC 4.9?
According to the GCC release dates:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html
4.8.0 was released in early-2013, while 4.9.0 was released in early-2014.
So the tooling compatibility window for latest upstream would narrow from
~6 years to ~5 years.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-06 7:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-09 21:25 [PATCH 00/10] implement DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 01/10] linux/device.h: use unique identifier for each struct _ddebug Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 02/10] linux/net.h: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 03/10] linux/printk.h: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 04/10] dynamic_debug: introduce accessors for string members of " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 05/10] dynamic_debug: drop use of bitfields in " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 06/10] dynamic_debug: introduce CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 07/10] dynamic_debug: add asm-generic implementation for DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 08/10] x86-64: select DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-10 7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 09/10] arm64: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 9:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-04-26 9:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-04-26 10:05 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 10:05 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 13:00 ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-04-26 13:00 ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-04-26 19:06 ` [PATCH 11/10] arm64: unbreak DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y build with clang Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 19:06 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 19:06 ` [PATCH 12/10] powerpc: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 19:06 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-29 17:34 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-04-29 17:34 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-04-26 19:27 ` [PATCH 11/10] arm64: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 19:27 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-26 21:58 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-04-26 21:58 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-04-26 22:07 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-04-26 22:07 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-04-29 17:32 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-04-29 17:32 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-04-30 18:22 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-04-30 18:22 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-05-02 8:57 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-02 8:57 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` [PATCH 10/10] powerpc: select DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS for PPC64 Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-09 21:25 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-23 15:37 ` Christophe Leroy
2019-04-23 19:36 ` Andrew Morton
2019-04-23 19:36 ` Andrew Morton
2019-04-24 6:46 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-04-24 6:46 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 6:48 ` [PATCH 00/10] implement DYNAMIC_DEBUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 6:48 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 6:48 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2019-05-06 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-06 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-06 7:34 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 7:34 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 7:34 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-05-06 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-06 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-06 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-06 14:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-06 14:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-06 14:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
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