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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Steve French <stfrench@microsoft.com>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 2/3] Maintainer Handbook: Maintainer Entry Profile
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 07:55:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001075559.629eb059@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <156821693396.2951081.7340292149329436920.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:48:54 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> As presented at the 2018 Linux Plumbers conference [1], the Maintainer
> Entry Profile (formerly Subsystem Profile) is proposed as a way to reduce
> friction between committers and maintainers and encourage conversations
> amongst maintainers about common best practices. While coding-style,
> submit-checklist, and submitting-drivers lay out some common expectations
> there remain local customs and maintainer preferences that vary by
> subsystem.
> 
> The profile contains short answers to some of the common policy questions a
> contributor might have that are local to the subsystem / device-driver, or
> otherwise not covered by the top-level process documents.
> 
> Overview: General introduction to how the subsystem operates
> Submit Checklist Addendum: Mechanical items that gate submission staging
> Key Cycle Dates:
>  - Last -rc for new feature submissions: Expected lead time for submissions
>  - Last -rc to merge features: Deadline for merge decisions
> Coding Style Addendum: Clarifications of local style preferences
> Resubmit Cadence: When to ping the maintainer
> Checkpatch / Style Cleanups: Policy on pure cleanup patches

So I'm finally back home after my European tour, and I have it on good
authority that my bag might even get here eventually too.  That means I'm
digging through a pile of docs stuff I've been neglecting badly...

My intention is to apply these patches.  But as I was reading through
them, one little nagging thing came to mind...

> See Documentation/maintainer/maintainer-entry-profile.rst for more details,
> and a follow-on example profile for the libnvdimm subsystem.

Thus far, the maintainer guide is focused on how to *be* a maintainer.
This document, instead, is more about how to deal with specific
maintainers.  So I suspect that Documentation/maintainer might be the
wrong place for it.

Should we maybe place it instead under Documentation/process, or even
create a new top-level "book" for this information?

Thanks,

jon
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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Steve French <stfrench@microsoft.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] Maintainer Handbook: Maintainer Entry Profile
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 07:55:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001075559.629eb059@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <156821693396.2951081.7340292149329436920.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:48:54 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> As presented at the 2018 Linux Plumbers conference [1], the Maintainer
> Entry Profile (formerly Subsystem Profile) is proposed as a way to reduce
> friction between committers and maintainers and encourage conversations
> amongst maintainers about common best practices. While coding-style,
> submit-checklist, and submitting-drivers lay out some common expectations
> there remain local customs and maintainer preferences that vary by
> subsystem.
> 
> The profile contains short answers to some of the common policy questions a
> contributor might have that are local to the subsystem / device-driver, or
> otherwise not covered by the top-level process documents.
> 
> Overview: General introduction to how the subsystem operates
> Submit Checklist Addendum: Mechanical items that gate submission staging
> Key Cycle Dates:
>  - Last -rc for new feature submissions: Expected lead time for submissions
>  - Last -rc to merge features: Deadline for merge decisions
> Coding Style Addendum: Clarifications of local style preferences
> Resubmit Cadence: When to ping the maintainer
> Checkpatch / Style Cleanups: Policy on pure cleanup patches

So I'm finally back home after my European tour, and I have it on good
authority that my bag might even get here eventually too.  That means I'm
digging through a pile of docs stuff I've been neglecting badly...

My intention is to apply these patches.  But as I was reading through
them, one little nagging thing came to mind...

> See Documentation/maintainer/maintainer-entry-profile.rst for more details,
> and a follow-on example profile for the libnvdimm subsystem.

Thus far, the maintainer guide is focused on how to *be* a maintainer.
This document, instead, is more about how to deal with specific
maintainers.  So I suspect that Documentation/maintainer might be the
wrong place for it.

Should we maybe place it instead under Documentation/process, or even
create a new top-level "book" for this information?

Thanks,

jon
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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Steve French <stfrench@microsoft.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	vishal.l.verma@intel.com, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] Maintainer Handbook: Maintainer Entry Profile
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 07:55:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001075559.629eb059@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <156821693396.2951081.7340292149329436920.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:48:54 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> As presented at the 2018 Linux Plumbers conference [1], the Maintainer
> Entry Profile (formerly Subsystem Profile) is proposed as a way to reduce
> friction between committers and maintainers and encourage conversations
> amongst maintainers about common best practices. While coding-style,
> submit-checklist, and submitting-drivers lay out some common expectations
> there remain local customs and maintainer preferences that vary by
> subsystem.
> 
> The profile contains short answers to some of the common policy questions a
> contributor might have that are local to the subsystem / device-driver, or
> otherwise not covered by the top-level process documents.
> 
> Overview: General introduction to how the subsystem operates
> Submit Checklist Addendum: Mechanical items that gate submission staging
> Key Cycle Dates:
>  - Last -rc for new feature submissions: Expected lead time for submissions
>  - Last -rc to merge features: Deadline for merge decisions
> Coding Style Addendum: Clarifications of local style preferences
> Resubmit Cadence: When to ping the maintainer
> Checkpatch / Style Cleanups: Policy on pure cleanup patches

So I'm finally back home after my European tour, and I have it on good
authority that my bag might even get here eventually too.  That means I'm
digging through a pile of docs stuff I've been neglecting badly...

My intention is to apply these patches.  But as I was reading through
them, one little nagging thing came to mind...

> See Documentation/maintainer/maintainer-entry-profile.rst for more details,
> and a follow-on example profile for the libnvdimm subsystem.

Thus far, the maintainer guide is focused on how to *be* a maintainer.
This document, instead, is more about how to deal with specific
maintainers.  So I suspect that Documentation/maintainer might be the
wrong place for it.

Should we maybe place it instead under Documentation/process, or even
create a new top-level "book" for this information?

Thanks,

jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-01 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 227+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-11 15:48 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 0/3] Maintainer Entry Profiles Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 1/3] MAINTAINERS: Reclaim the P: tag for Maintainer Entry Profile Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 15:37   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 15:37     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 15:37     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 2/3] Maintainer Handbook: " Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 17:34   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Verma, Vishal L
2019-09-11 17:34     ` Verma, Vishal L
2019-09-16 12:35   ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-16 12:35     ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-16 12:35     ` Jani Nikula
2019-10-01 13:55   ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2019-10-01 13:55     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-10-01 13:55     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-10-01 18:17     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Martin K. Petersen
2019-10-01 18:17       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-10-01 18:17       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-11-07 20:13     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Jonathan Corbet
2019-11-07 20:13       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-11-07 20:13       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-11-08  2:41       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Williams
2019-11-08  2:41         ` Dan Williams
2019-11-08  2:41         ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 3/3] libnvdimm, MAINTAINERS: " Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 17:42   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Vishal Verma
2019-09-11 17:42     ` Vishal Verma
2019-09-11 17:42     ` Vishal Verma
2019-09-11 17:45   ` Dave Jiang
2019-09-11 17:45     ` Dave Jiang
2019-09-11 18:43   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Carpenter
2019-09-11 18:43     ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-11 18:43     ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-11 22:11     ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-11 22:11       ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-11 22:11       ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-12  7:41       ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12  7:41         ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12  7:41         ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12  8:24         ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-12  8:24           ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-12 10:18           ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 10:18             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 10:18             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 11:02             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 11:02               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 14:17               ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12 14:17                 ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12 14:51                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 14:51                   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 14:42             ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-12 14:42               ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-13  7:09       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-13  7:09         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-13  7:09         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-13 11:48         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-13 11:48           ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-13 11:48           ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-13 12:18           ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 12:18             ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 12:18             ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 15:00           ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-13 15:00             ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-13 15:00             ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-13 15:46             ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 15:46               ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 15:46               ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 16:42               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 16:42                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 16:42                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 19:32                 ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 19:32                   ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 19:32                   ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 17:57             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-13 17:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-13 17:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-16 12:42           ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-16 12:42             ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-16 12:42             ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-17 16:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-09-17 21:59             ` Dan Williams
2019-09-17 21:59               ` Dan Williams
2019-09-17 21:59               ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 21:44       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-13 21:44         ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-13 21:44         ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-16  7:01         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-16  7:01           ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-16  7:01           ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-16 17:08           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-16 17:08             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-16 17:08             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-16 17:15             ` Mark Brown
2019-09-16 17:15               ` Mark Brown
2019-09-13  2:11     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2019-09-13  2:11       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2019-09-13  5:00       ` Greg KH
2019-09-13  5:00         ` Greg KH
2019-09-11 20:30   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-11 20:30     ` Joe Perches
2019-09-11 20:30     ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 16:19   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] media: add a subsystem profile documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 16:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 16:19     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-17  3:35     ` [Ksummit-discuss] single maintainer profile directory (was Re: [PATCH] media: add a subsystem profile documentation) Kees Cook
2019-09-17  3:35       ` single maintainer profile directory (was Re: [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2019-09-17 13:28       ` [Ksummit-discuss] single maintainer profile directory (was " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-17 13:28         ` single maintainer profile directory (was Re: [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-17 16:33         ` [Ksummit-discuss] single maintainer profile directory (was " Kees Cook
2019-09-17 16:33           ` single maintainer profile directory (was Re: [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2019-09-18 11:23           ` [Ksummit-discuss] single maintainer profile directory (was " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 11:23             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 17:39             ` Kees Cook
2019-09-18 17:39               ` Kees Cook
2019-09-18 18:35               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 18:35                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-21 19:13             ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-21 19:13               ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-21 19:45               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-21 19:45                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-23 22:45               ` Kees Cook
2019-09-23 22:45                 ` Kees Cook
2019-09-18 12:36     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] media: add a subsystem profile documentation Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-18 12:36       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-18 13:57       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 13:57         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 17:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-18 17:27           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-18 18:48           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 18:48             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-19  7:08             ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-19  7:08               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-20  5:29               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-20  5:29                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-20 14:09                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-20 14:09                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-19  6:56         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-19  6:56           ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-19  7:22           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-19  7:22             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-19  8:49             ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-19  8:49               ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-19  8:58               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-19  8:58                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-19  9:52                 ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-19  9:52                   ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-20 14:53             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-20 14:53               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-20 14:59               ` Doug Anderson
2019-09-20 14:59                 ` Doug Anderson
2019-09-21  8:56                 ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-21  8:56                   ` Jani Nikula
2019-09-23 15:58                   ` Doug Anderson
2019-09-23 15:58                     ` Doug Anderson
2019-09-23 16:04                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-23 16:04                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-19  9:52           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-19  9:52             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-25 17:13           ` Joe Perches
2019-09-25 17:13             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-25 18:40             ` Kees Cook
2019-09-25 18:40               ` Kees Cook
2019-09-26 15:14               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-26 15:14                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-26 15:53                 ` Kees Cook
2019-09-26 15:53                   ` Kees Cook
2019-09-26 16:02                   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-26 16:02                     ` Joe Perches
2019-09-26 16:24                     ` Kees Cook
2019-09-26 16:24                       ` Kees Cook
2019-09-26 10:25             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-26 10:25               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-18 13:59       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 13:59         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 14:07         ` André Almeida
2019-09-18 14:11           ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-18 14:11             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-11 16:40 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 0/3] Maintainer Entry Profiles Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-11 16:40   ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-11 16:40   ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-12 13:31   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 13:31     ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 13:31     ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 15:34     ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 15:34       ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 15:34       ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 20:01       ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 20:01         ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 20:01         ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 20:34         ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 20:34           ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 20:34           ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 14:26           ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 14:26             ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 14:26             ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 18:42             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 18:42               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 18:42               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 19:17               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 19:17                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 19:17                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 20:33                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 20:33                   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 20:33                   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 12:56         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-13 12:56           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-13 13:54           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 13:54             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 13:54             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 14:59             ` Guenter Roeck
2019-09-13 14:59               ` Guenter Roeck
2019-09-13 14:59               ` Guenter Roeck
2019-09-13 22:03     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-13 22:03       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-13 22:03       ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-04-29 13:55       ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-04-29 13:55         ` Roman Bolshakov
2019-09-12 13:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 13:10   ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 13:10   ` Bart Van Assche

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