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From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 3/3] f2fs: skip migration only when BG_GC is called
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:53:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200224215341.GB77839@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <266f233b-e084-cccd-d07e-96d8438d5b74@huawei.com>

On 02/19, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 2020/2/19 11:04, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > On 02/19, Chao Yu wrote:
> >> On 2020/2/19 7:27, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> >>> On 02/17, Chao Yu wrote:
> >>>> On 2020/2/15 2:58, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> >>>>> FG_GC needs to move entire section more quickly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>  fs/f2fs/gc.c | 2 +-
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/gc.c b/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> index bbf4db3f6bb4..1676eebc8c8b 100644
> >>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> @@ -1203,7 +1203,7 @@ static int do_garbage_collect(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi,
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>  		if (get_valid_blocks(sbi, segno, false) == 0)
> >>>>>  			goto freed;
> >>>>> -		if (__is_large_section(sbi) &&
> >>>>> +		if (gc_type == BG_GC && __is_large_section(sbi) &&
> >>>>>  				migrated >= sbi->migration_granularity)
> >>>>
> >>>> I knew migrating one large section is a more efficient way, but this can
> >>>> increase long-tail latency of f2fs_balance_fs() occasionally, especially in
> >>>> extreme fragmented space.
> >>>
> >>> FG_GC requires to wait for whole section migration which shows the entire
> >>> latency.
> >>
> >> That will cause long-tail latency for single f2fs_balance_fs() procedure,
> >> which it looks a very long hang when userspace call f2fs syscall, so why
> >> not splitting total elapsed time into several f2fs_balance_fs() to avoid that.
> > 
> > Then, other ops can easily make more dirty segments. The intention of FG_GC is
> 
> Yup, that's a problem, if there are more dirty datas being made, reserved segments
> may be ran out during FG_GC.
> 
> > to block everything and make min. free segments as a best shot.
> 
> I just try to simulate write GC's logic in FTL to mitigate single op's max latency,
> otherwise benchmark looks hang during FG_GC (in a 500mb+ section).

Hmm, I think we may need to think another way like doing BG_GC more aggressively.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>>  			goto skip;
> >>>>>  		if (!PageUptodate(sum_page) || unlikely(f2fs_cp_error(sbi)))
> >>>>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> > .
> > 


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From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 3/3] f2fs: skip migration only when BG_GC is called
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:53:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200224215341.GB77839@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <266f233b-e084-cccd-d07e-96d8438d5b74@huawei.com>

On 02/19, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 2020/2/19 11:04, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > On 02/19, Chao Yu wrote:
> >> On 2020/2/19 7:27, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> >>> On 02/17, Chao Yu wrote:
> >>>> On 2020/2/15 2:58, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> >>>>> FG_GC needs to move entire section more quickly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>  fs/f2fs/gc.c | 2 +-
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/gc.c b/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> index bbf4db3f6bb4..1676eebc8c8b 100644
> >>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/gc.c
> >>>>> @@ -1203,7 +1203,7 @@ static int do_garbage_collect(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi,
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>  		if (get_valid_blocks(sbi, segno, false) == 0)
> >>>>>  			goto freed;
> >>>>> -		if (__is_large_section(sbi) &&
> >>>>> +		if (gc_type == BG_GC && __is_large_section(sbi) &&
> >>>>>  				migrated >= sbi->migration_granularity)
> >>>>
> >>>> I knew migrating one large section is a more efficient way, but this can
> >>>> increase long-tail latency of f2fs_balance_fs() occasionally, especially in
> >>>> extreme fragmented space.
> >>>
> >>> FG_GC requires to wait for whole section migration which shows the entire
> >>> latency.
> >>
> >> That will cause long-tail latency for single f2fs_balance_fs() procedure,
> >> which it looks a very long hang when userspace call f2fs syscall, so why
> >> not splitting total elapsed time into several f2fs_balance_fs() to avoid that.
> > 
> > Then, other ops can easily make more dirty segments. The intention of FG_GC is
> 
> Yup, that's a problem, if there are more dirty datas being made, reserved segments
> may be ran out during FG_GC.
> 
> > to block everything and make min. free segments as a best shot.
> 
> I just try to simulate write GC's logic in FTL to mitigate single op's max latency,
> otherwise benchmark looks hang during FG_GC (in a 500mb+ section).

Hmm, I think we may need to think another way like doing BG_GC more aggressively.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>>  			goto skip;
> >>>>>  		if (!PageUptodate(sum_page) || unlikely(f2fs_cp_error(sbi)))
> >>>>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> > .
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-24 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-14 18:58 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 1/3] f2fs: skip GC when section is full Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-14 18:58 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-14 18:58 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: add migration count iff migration happens Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-14 18:58   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-17  1:41   ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu
2020-02-17  1:41     ` Chao Yu
2020-02-17  1:43   ` Chao Yu
2020-02-17  1:43     ` Chao Yu
2020-02-14 18:58 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 3/3] f2fs: skip migration only when BG_GC is called Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-14 18:58   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-17  2:22   ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu
2020-02-17  2:22     ` Chao Yu
2020-02-18 23:27     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-18 23:27       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-19  3:01       ` Chao Yu
2020-02-19  3:01         ` Chao Yu
2020-02-19  3:04         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-19  3:04           ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-19  3:54           ` Chao Yu
2020-02-19  3:54             ` Chao Yu
2020-02-24 21:53             ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2020-02-24 21:53               ` Jaegeuk Kim
2020-02-25  2:24               ` Chao Yu
2020-02-25  2:24                 ` Chao Yu
2020-02-17  1:40 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 1/3] f2fs: skip GC when section is full Chao Yu
2020-02-17  1:40   ` Chao Yu

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