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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] powerpc/uaccess: Implement unsafe_put_user() using 'asm goto'
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:59:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505155944.GO31009@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c6379b2-7e0a-91fe-34f0-51f5adca7929@csgroup.eu>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:40:21PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> >>+#define __put_user_asm_goto(x, addr, label, op)			\
> >>+	asm volatile goto(					\
> >>+		"1:	" op "%U1%X1 %0,%1	# put_user\n"	\
> >>+		EX_TABLE(1b, %l2)				\
> >>+		:						\
> >>+		: "r" (x), "m<>" (*addr)				\
> >
> >The "m<>" here is breaking GCC 4.6.3, which we allegedly still support.
> >
> >Plain "m" works, how much does the "<>" affect code gen in practice?
> >
> >A quick diff here shows no difference from removing "<>".
> 
> It was recommended by Segher, there has been some discussion about it on 
> v1 of this patch, see 
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/patch/4fdc2aba6f5e51887d1cd0fee94be0989eada2cd.1586942312.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr/
> 
> As far as I understood that's mandatory on recent gcc to get the 
> pre-update form of the instruction. With older versions "m" was doing 
> the same, but not anymore.

Yes.  How much that matters depends on the asm.  On older CPUs (6xx/7xx,
say) the update form was just as fast as the non-update form.  On newer
or bigger CPUs it is usually executed just the same as an add followed
by the memory access, so it just saves a bit of code size.

> Should we ifdef the "m<>" or "m" based on GCC 
> version ?

That will be a lot of churn.  Just make 4.8 minimum?


Segher

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	npiggin@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] powerpc/uaccess: Implement unsafe_put_user() using 'asm goto'
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:59:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505155944.GO31009@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c6379b2-7e0a-91fe-34f0-51f5adca7929@csgroup.eu>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:40:21PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> >>+#define __put_user_asm_goto(x, addr, label, op)			\
> >>+	asm volatile goto(					\
> >>+		"1:	" op "%U1%X1 %0,%1	# put_user\n"	\
> >>+		EX_TABLE(1b, %l2)				\
> >>+		:						\
> >>+		: "r" (x), "m<>" (*addr)				\
> >
> >The "m<>" here is breaking GCC 4.6.3, which we allegedly still support.
> >
> >Plain "m" works, how much does the "<>" affect code gen in practice?
> >
> >A quick diff here shows no difference from removing "<>".
> 
> It was recommended by Segher, there has been some discussion about it on 
> v1 of this patch, see 
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/patch/4fdc2aba6f5e51887d1cd0fee94be0989eada2cd.1586942312.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr/
> 
> As far as I understood that's mandatory on recent gcc to get the 
> pre-update form of the instruction. With older versions "m" was doing 
> the same, but not anymore.

Yes.  How much that matters depends on the asm.  On older CPUs (6xx/7xx,
say) the update form was just as fast as the non-update form.  On newer
or bigger CPUs it is usually executed just the same as an add followed
by the memory access, so it just saves a bit of code size.

> Should we ifdef the "m<>" or "m" based on GCC 
> version ?

That will be a lot of churn.  Just make 4.8 minimum?


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-05 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-17 17:08 [PATCH v4 1/2] powerpc/uaccess: Implement unsafe_put_user() using 'asm goto' Christophe Leroy
2020-04-17 17:08 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-17 17:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] powerpc/uaccess: Implement unsafe_copy_to_user() as a simple loop Christophe Leroy
2020-04-17 17:08   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-05-29  4:24   ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-05 14:27 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] powerpc/uaccess: Implement unsafe_put_user() using 'asm goto' Michael Ellerman
2020-05-05 14:27   ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-05 15:32   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-05 15:32     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06  0:58     ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-06  0:58       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-06 17:58       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06 17:58         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06 18:10         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-05-06 18:10           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-05-06 22:18           ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06 22:18             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-05 15:40   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-05-05 15:40     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-05-05 15:59     ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2020-05-05 15:59       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06  1:36       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-06  1:36         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-05-06 18:09         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-06 18:09           ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-29  4:24 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-06-11 22:43   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-06-11 22:43     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-06-11 23:52     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-06-11 23:52       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-06-12 21:33       ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-06-12 21:33         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-06-13  1:08         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-06-13  1:08           ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-06-13  6:46         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-06-13  6:46           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-06-13 10:47         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-06-13 10:47           ` Michael Ellerman

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