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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Dan Murphy <dmurphy@ti.com>
Cc: robh@kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tiwai@suse.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: tas2562: Add firmware support for tas2563
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:28:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610142811.GH5005@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84a6dd5f-cc3e-adb4-ae94-b4fe389adfd9@ti.com>

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:12:15AM -0500, Dan Murphy wrote:
> On 6/10/20 5:29 AM, Mark Brown wrote:

> > I'm not *completely* opposed to having the ability to suggest a name in
> > firmware, the big problem is making use of the DSP completely dependent
> > on having a DT property or doing some non-standard dance in userspace.

> Well from what I see we have 4 options.

These are not mutually exclusive approaches.

> 1.  We can have a DT node like RFC'd (Need Rob's comments here)

This is compatible with any hardcoding option.

> 2.  We can have a defconfig flag that hard codes the name (This will
> probably be met with some resistance if not some really bad reactions and I
> don't prefer to do it this way)

This is even worse than the ALSA control suggestion.

> 3.  We can hard code the name of the firmware in the c file.

> 4.  Dynamically derive a file name based on the I2C bus-address-device so it
> would be expected to be "2_4c_tas2563.bin".  Just need to figure out how to
> get the bus number.

> Again only option 1 allows us to have different firmware binaries per IC
> instance and also denotes the use of the DSP.  The DSP is not programmed

No, this is not the case at all - a per-device generated file allows
this just as well.

> So special audio handling is very explicit in the user space.  More then
> likely most standard distributions will not even use the DSP for this device
> it is more of a specialized use case for each product.

People do things like make AOSP derived distributions for phones.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Dan Murphy <dmurphy@ti.com>
Cc: lgirdwood@gmail.com, perex@perex.cz, tiwai@suse.com,
	robh@kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: tas2562: Add firmware support for tas2563
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:28:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610142811.GH5005@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84a6dd5f-cc3e-adb4-ae94-b4fe389adfd9@ti.com>

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:12:15AM -0500, Dan Murphy wrote:
> On 6/10/20 5:29 AM, Mark Brown wrote:

> > I'm not *completely* opposed to having the ability to suggest a name in
> > firmware, the big problem is making use of the DSP completely dependent
> > on having a DT property or doing some non-standard dance in userspace.

> Well from what I see we have 4 options.

These are not mutually exclusive approaches.

> 1.  We can have a DT node like RFC'd (Need Rob's comments here)

This is compatible with any hardcoding option.

> 2.  We can have a defconfig flag that hard codes the name (This will
> probably be met with some resistance if not some really bad reactions and I
> don't prefer to do it this way)

This is even worse than the ALSA control suggestion.

> 3.  We can hard code the name of the firmware in the c file.

> 4.  Dynamically derive a file name based on the I2C bus-address-device so it
> would be expected to be "2_4c_tas2563.bin".  Just need to figure out how to
> get the bus number.

> Again only option 1 allows us to have different firmware binaries per IC
> instance and also denotes the use of the DSP.  The DSP is not programmed

No, this is not the case at all - a per-device generated file allows
this just as well.

> So special audio handling is very explicit in the user space.  More then
> likely most standard distributions will not even use the DSP for this device
> it is more of a specialized use case for each product.

People do things like make AOSP derived distributions for phones.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-09 17:28 [RFC PATCH 0/2] TAS2563 DSP Firmware Loader Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:28 ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: tas2562: Add firmware support for tas2563 Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:28   ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:31   ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:31     ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:35     ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:35       ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:58       ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:58         ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 18:06         ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 18:06           ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 18:47           ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 18:47             ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 19:20             ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 19:20               ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-10 10:29               ` Mark Brown
2020-06-10 10:29                 ` Mark Brown
2020-06-10 14:12                 ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-10 14:12                   ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-10 14:28                   ` Mark Brown [this message]
2020-06-10 14:28                     ` Mark Brown
2020-06-17 22:04                   ` Rob Herring
2020-06-17 22:04                     ` Rob Herring
2020-06-18 10:57                     ` Mark Brown
2020-06-18 10:57                       ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ASoc: tas2563: DSP Firmware loading support Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:28   ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 17:50   ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:50     ` Mark Brown
2020-06-12 17:30     ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-12 17:30       ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-12 17:46       ` Mark Brown
2020-06-12 17:46         ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:52 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] TAS2563 DSP Firmware Loader Mark Brown
2020-06-09 17:52   ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 18:07   ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 18:07     ` Dan Murphy
2020-06-09 18:16     ` Mark Brown
2020-06-09 18:16       ` Mark Brown

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