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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	"Zanussi, Tom" <tom.zanussi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] dmaengine: idxd: Use DMA API for in-kernel DMA with PASID
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:18:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211209111817.6a84a55c@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB527617F8CC015E4F15EDCC9F8C709@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Kevin,

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 01:48:09 +0000, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
wrote:

> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 1:51 AM
> >   
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * Try to enable both in-kernel and user DMA request
> > > > > with PASID.
> > > > > +	 * PASID is supported unless both user and kernel PASID
> > > > > are
> > > > > +	 * supported. Do not fail probe here in that idxd can
> > > > > still be
> > > > > +	 * used w/o PASID or IOMMU.
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	if (iommu_dev_enable_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_SVA) ||
> > > > > +		idxd_enable_system_pasid(idxd)) {
> > > > > +		dev_warn(dev, "Failed to enable PASID\n");
> > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > +		set_bit(IDXD_FLAG_PASID_ENABLED, &idxd->flags);
> > > > >   	}  
> > > > Huh? How can the driver keep going if PASID isn't supported? I
> > > > thought the whole point of this was because the device cannot do
> > > > DMA without PASID at all?  
> > >
> > > There are 2 types of WQ supported with the DSA devices. A dedicated
> > > WQ  
> > type  
> > > and a shared WQ type. The dedicated WQ type can support DMA with and  
> > without  
> > > PASID. The shared wq type must have a PASID to operate. The driver can
> > > support dedicated WQ only without PASID usage when there is no PASID
> > > support.  
> > 
> > Can you add to the cover letter why does the kernel require to use the
> > shared WQ?
> > 
> > Jason  
> 
> Two reasons:
> 
> On native the shared WQ is useful when the kernel wants to offload
> some memory operations (e.g. page-zeroing) to DSA. When #CPUs are
> more than #WQs, this allows per-cpu lock-less submissions using
> ENQCMD(PASID, payload) instruction.
> 
> In guest the virtual DSA HW may only contain a WQ in shared mode
> (unchangeable by the guest) when the host admin wants to share
> the limited WQ resource among many VMs. Then there is no choice
> in guest regardless whether it's for user or kernel controlled DMA.
I will add these to the next cover letter.


Thanks,

Jacob
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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	"Lu Baolu" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	"Zanussi, Tom" <tom.zanussi@intel.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] dmaengine: idxd: Use DMA API for in-kernel DMA with PASID
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:18:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211209111817.6a84a55c@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB527617F8CC015E4F15EDCC9F8C709@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Kevin,

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 01:48:09 +0000, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
wrote:

> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 1:51 AM
> >   
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * Try to enable both in-kernel and user DMA request
> > > > > with PASID.
> > > > > +	 * PASID is supported unless both user and kernel PASID
> > > > > are
> > > > > +	 * supported. Do not fail probe here in that idxd can
> > > > > still be
> > > > > +	 * used w/o PASID or IOMMU.
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	if (iommu_dev_enable_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_SVA) ||
> > > > > +		idxd_enable_system_pasid(idxd)) {
> > > > > +		dev_warn(dev, "Failed to enable PASID\n");
> > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > +		set_bit(IDXD_FLAG_PASID_ENABLED, &idxd->flags);
> > > > >   	}  
> > > > Huh? How can the driver keep going if PASID isn't supported? I
> > > > thought the whole point of this was because the device cannot do
> > > > DMA without PASID at all?  
> > >
> > > There are 2 types of WQ supported with the DSA devices. A dedicated
> > > WQ  
> > type  
> > > and a shared WQ type. The dedicated WQ type can support DMA with and  
> > without  
> > > PASID. The shared wq type must have a PASID to operate. The driver can
> > > support dedicated WQ only without PASID usage when there is no PASID
> > > support.  
> > 
> > Can you add to the cover letter why does the kernel require to use the
> > shared WQ?
> > 
> > Jason  
> 
> Two reasons:
> 
> On native the shared WQ is useful when the kernel wants to offload
> some memory operations (e.g. page-zeroing) to DSA. When #CPUs are
> more than #WQs, this allows per-cpu lock-less submissions using
> ENQCMD(PASID, payload) instruction.
> 
> In guest the virtual DSA HW may only contain a WQ in shared mode
> (unchangeable by the guest) when the host admin wants to share
> the limited WQ resource among many VMs. Then there is no choice
> in guest regardless whether it's for user or kernel controlled DMA.
I will add these to the next cover letter.


Thanks,

Jacob

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-09 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 13:47 [PATCH 0/4] Enable PASID for DMA API users Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] ioasid: Reserve a global PASID for in-kernel DMA Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 11:03   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-09 11:03     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-09 18:14     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 18:14       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10  9:06       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-10  9:06         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-10 12:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 12:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 18:05           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 18:05             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-11  8:39             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11  8:39               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 23:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-12 23:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] iommu: Add PASID support for DMA mapping API users Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08  2:31   ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-08  2:31     ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-08 18:49     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 18:49       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09  1:56       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  1:56         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  2:21         ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09  2:21           ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09 16:32           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 16:32             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 16:57             ` Raj, Ashok
2021-12-09 16:57               ` Raj, Ashok
2021-12-09 17:34               ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 17:34                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 3/4] iommu/vt-d: Support PASID DMA for in-kernel usage Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 13:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 19:16     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:16       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09  2:32       ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09  2:32         ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09 23:21         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 23:21           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 23:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-09 23:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  6:46           ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-10  6:46             ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-10 17:50             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 17:50               ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 17:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 17:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 18:18                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 18:18                   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 18:53                   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 18:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] dmaengine: idxd: Use DMA API for in-kernel DMA with PASID Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 23:27   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-07 23:27     ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08  4:56     ` Vinod Koul
2021-12-08  4:56       ` Vinod Koul
2021-12-08 17:36       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 17:36         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 13:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 15:35     ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08 15:35       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 17:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09  1:48         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  1:48           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 19:18           ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2021-12-09 19:18             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:55     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:55       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 20:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 20:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 21:59         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 21:59           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 23:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 23:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09  0:12             ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-09  0:12               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-09  2:06               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  2:06                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-08 18:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 18:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 18:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 13:10 ` [PATCH 0/4] Enable PASID for DMA API users Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 18:15   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 18:15     ` Jacob Pan

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