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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	"Zanussi, Tom" <tom.zanussi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ioasid: Reserve a global PASID for in-kernel DMA
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 10:05:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211210100545.373c30d1@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211210123109.GE6385@nvidia.com>

Hi Jason,

On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:31:09 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:06:24AM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:14:04AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:  
> > > > This looks like we're just one step away from device drivers needing
> > > > multiple PASIDs for kernel DMA so I'm trying to figure out how to
> > > > evolve the API towards that. It's probably as simple as keeping a
> > > > kernel IOASID set at first, but then we'll probably want to
> > > > optimize by having multiple overlapping sets for each device driver
> > > > (all separate from the SVA set).  
> > > Sounds reasonable to start with a kernel set for in-kernel DMA once
> > > we need multiple ones. But I am not sure what *overlapping* sets mean
> > > here, could you explain?  
> > 
> > Given that each device uses a separate PASID table, we could allocate
> > the same set of PASID values for different device drivers. We just need
> > to make sure that those values are different from PASIDs allocated for
> > user SVA.  
> 
> Why does user SVA need global values anyhow?
> 
Currently, we have mm.pasid for user SVA. mm is global. We could have per
device PASID for dedicated devices (not shared across mm's), but that would
make things a lot more complex. I am thinking multiple PASIDs per mm is
needed, right?

For VT-d, the shared workqueue (SWQ) requires global PASIDs in that we
cannot have two processes use the same PASID to submit work on a workqueue
shared by the two processes. Each process's PASID must be unique to the
SWQ's PASID table.

> Jason


Thanks,

Jacob
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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	"Zanussi, Tom" <tom.zanussi@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ioasid: Reserve a global PASID for in-kernel DMA
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 10:05:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211210100545.373c30d1@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211210123109.GE6385@nvidia.com>

Hi Jason,

On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:31:09 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:06:24AM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:14:04AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:  
> > > > This looks like we're just one step away from device drivers needing
> > > > multiple PASIDs for kernel DMA so I'm trying to figure out how to
> > > > evolve the API towards that. It's probably as simple as keeping a
> > > > kernel IOASID set at first, but then we'll probably want to
> > > > optimize by having multiple overlapping sets for each device driver
> > > > (all separate from the SVA set).  
> > > Sounds reasonable to start with a kernel set for in-kernel DMA once
> > > we need multiple ones. But I am not sure what *overlapping* sets mean
> > > here, could you explain?  
> > 
> > Given that each device uses a separate PASID table, we could allocate
> > the same set of PASID values for different device drivers. We just need
> > to make sure that those values are different from PASIDs allocated for
> > user SVA.  
> 
> Why does user SVA need global values anyhow?
> 
Currently, we have mm.pasid for user SVA. mm is global. We could have per
device PASID for dedicated devices (not shared across mm's), but that would
make things a lot more complex. I am thinking multiple PASIDs per mm is
needed, right?

For VT-d, the shared workqueue (SWQ) requires global PASIDs in that we
cannot have two processes use the same PASID to submit work on a workqueue
shared by the two processes. Each process's PASID must be unique to the
SWQ's PASID table.

> Jason


Thanks,

Jacob

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-10 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 13:47 [PATCH 0/4] Enable PASID for DMA API users Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] ioasid: Reserve a global PASID for in-kernel DMA Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 11:03   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-09 11:03     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-09 18:14     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 18:14       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10  9:06       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-10  9:06         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-12-10 12:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 12:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 18:05           ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2021-12-10 18:05             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-11  8:39             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11  8:39               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 23:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-12 23:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] iommu: Add PASID support for DMA mapping API users Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08  2:31   ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-08  2:31     ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-08 18:49     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 18:49       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09  1:56       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  1:56         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  2:21         ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09  2:21           ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09 16:32           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 16:32             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 16:57             ` Raj, Ashok
2021-12-09 16:57               ` Raj, Ashok
2021-12-09 17:34               ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 17:34                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 3/4] iommu/vt-d: Support PASID DMA for in-kernel usage Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 13:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 19:16     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:16       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09  2:32       ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09  2:32         ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-09 23:21         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 23:21           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 23:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-09 23:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  6:46           ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-10  6:46             ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-10 17:50             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 17:50               ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 17:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 17:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 18:18                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 18:18                   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-10 18:53                   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 18:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 13:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] dmaengine: idxd: Use DMA API for in-kernel DMA with PASID Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 13:47   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-07 23:27   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-07 23:27     ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08  4:56     ` Vinod Koul
2021-12-08  4:56       ` Vinod Koul
2021-12-08 17:36       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 17:36         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 13:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 15:35     ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08 15:35       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-08 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 17:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09  1:48         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  1:48           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 19:18           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-09 19:18             ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:55     ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 19:55       ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 20:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 20:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 21:59         ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 21:59           ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 23:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 23:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09  0:12             ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-09  0:12               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-09  2:06               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  2:06                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-08 18:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 18:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 18:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 13:10 ` [PATCH 0/4] Enable PASID for DMA API users Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-08 13:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 18:15   ` Jacob Pan
2021-12-08 18:15     ` Jacob Pan

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