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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Apurva Nandan <a-nandan@ti.com>
Cc: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Patrice Chotard <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>,
	Christophe Kerello <christophe.kerello@foss.st.com>,
	Daniel Palmer <daniel@0x0f.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alobakin@pm.me>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>, <p.yadav@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/17] mtd: spinand: Define ctrl_ops for non-page read/write op templates
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 09:40:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220310094053.1d86d13a@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12c7a6a6-8b49-1c3e-087f-79c77388b091@ti.com>

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:27:06 +0530
Apurva Nandan <a-nandan@ti.com> wrote:

> >>> This way, you can easily pick the right set of operations based
> >>> on the protocol/mode you're in:
> >>>
> >>> #define spinand_get_op_template(spinand, opname) \
> >>> 	((spinand)->op_templates[(spinand)->protocol]->opname)
> >>>
> >>> static int spinand_read_reg_op(struct spinand_device *spinand, u8 reg, u8 *val)
> >>> {
> >>> 	struct spi_mem_op op = *spinand_get_op_template(spinand, get_feature);
> >>> 	int ret;
> >>>
> >>> 	...
> >>> }  
> >> I find a couple of issues with this  method,
> >>
> >> 1. read_cache, write_cache, update_cache op templates don't fit well
> >> with the other non-data ops, as
> >> these data ops are used to create a dirmap, and that can be done only
> >> once at probe time. Hence, there
> >> is a different mechanism of selecting of data ops and non-data ops.  
> > Not sure I see why this is a problem. You can populate data-ops for all
> > modes, and pick the one that provides the best perfs when you create
> > the dirmap (which should really be at the end of the probe, if it's not
> > already).
> >  
> >> Hence, this division in the op templates
> >> struct as data_ops and ctrl_ops is required. Currently, the core only
> >> supports using a single protocol for
> >> data ops, chosen at the time of probing.  
> > Again, I don't see why you need to differentiate the control and data
> > ops when populating this table. Those are just operations the NAND
> > supports, and the data operations is just a subset.
> >  
> >> 2. If we use this single op_templates struct, I can't think of any good
> >> way to initialize these in the
> >> manufacturers driver (winbond.c), refer to 17th patch in this series.
> >> Could you please suggest a macro
> >> implementation also for winbond.c with the suggested op_templates struct.  
> > First replace the op_variants field by something more generic:
> >
> > struct spinand_info {
> > ...
> > 	const struct spinand_op_variants **ops_variants;
> > ...
> > };
> >
> > #define SPINAND_OP_VARIANTS(_id, ...) \
> > 	[SPI_NAND_OP_ ## _id] = { __VA_ARGS__ }
> >
> > #define SPINAND_OPS_VARIANTS(name, ...)
> > 	const struct spinand_op_variants name[]{
> > 		__VA_ARGS__,
> > 	};
> >
> > #define SPINAND_INFO_OPS_VARIANTS(defs)
> > 	.ops_variants = defs  
> 
> If we modify these macros, it would require other spinand vendor drivers 
> to change (toshiba, micron, etc).
> The older macros suit them well, should we go about changing them to 
> this new macro (will require re-testing all of them),
> or can we keep them unchanged and have new set of macros with different 
> name (please give suggestion for it) for op variants.

I'd rather have everything converted to the new approach (we don't want
2 ways of describing the same thing), and I'm not sure you can make the
old macros map to the new solution, so I fear you'll have to patch all
vendors. This being said, I'm fine providing simple wrappers if that
helps, but I don't see how they'd make the description simpler/more
compact to be honest.

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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Apurva Nandan <a-nandan@ti.com>
Cc: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Patrice Chotard <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>,
	Christophe Kerello <christophe.kerello@foss.st.com>,
	Daniel Palmer <daniel@0x0f.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alobakin@pm.me>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>, <p.yadav@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/17] mtd: spinand: Define ctrl_ops for non-page read/write op templates
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 09:40:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220310094053.1d86d13a@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12c7a6a6-8b49-1c3e-087f-79c77388b091@ti.com>

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:27:06 +0530
Apurva Nandan <a-nandan@ti.com> wrote:

> >>> This way, you can easily pick the right set of operations based
> >>> on the protocol/mode you're in:
> >>>
> >>> #define spinand_get_op_template(spinand, opname) \
> >>> 	((spinand)->op_templates[(spinand)->protocol]->opname)
> >>>
> >>> static int spinand_read_reg_op(struct spinand_device *spinand, u8 reg, u8 *val)
> >>> {
> >>> 	struct spi_mem_op op = *spinand_get_op_template(spinand, get_feature);
> >>> 	int ret;
> >>>
> >>> 	...
> >>> }  
> >> I find a couple of issues with this  method,
> >>
> >> 1. read_cache, write_cache, update_cache op templates don't fit well
> >> with the other non-data ops, as
> >> these data ops are used to create a dirmap, and that can be done only
> >> once at probe time. Hence, there
> >> is a different mechanism of selecting of data ops and non-data ops.  
> > Not sure I see why this is a problem. You can populate data-ops for all
> > modes, and pick the one that provides the best perfs when you create
> > the dirmap (which should really be at the end of the probe, if it's not
> > already).
> >  
> >> Hence, this division in the op templates
> >> struct as data_ops and ctrl_ops is required. Currently, the core only
> >> supports using a single protocol for
> >> data ops, chosen at the time of probing.  
> > Again, I don't see why you need to differentiate the control and data
> > ops when populating this table. Those are just operations the NAND
> > supports, and the data operations is just a subset.
> >  
> >> 2. If we use this single op_templates struct, I can't think of any good
> >> way to initialize these in the
> >> manufacturers driver (winbond.c), refer to 17th patch in this series.
> >> Could you please suggest a macro
> >> implementation also for winbond.c with the suggested op_templates struct.  
> > First replace the op_variants field by something more generic:
> >
> > struct spinand_info {
> > ...
> > 	const struct spinand_op_variants **ops_variants;
> > ...
> > };
> >
> > #define SPINAND_OP_VARIANTS(_id, ...) \
> > 	[SPI_NAND_OP_ ## _id] = { __VA_ARGS__ }
> >
> > #define SPINAND_OPS_VARIANTS(name, ...)
> > 	const struct spinand_op_variants name[]{
> > 		__VA_ARGS__,
> > 	};
> >
> > #define SPINAND_INFO_OPS_VARIANTS(defs)
> > 	.ops_variants = defs  
> 
> If we modify these macros, it would require other spinand vendor drivers 
> to change (toshiba, micron, etc).
> The older macros suit them well, should we go about changing them to 
> this new macro (will require re-testing all of them),
> or can we keep them unchanged and have new set of macros with different 
> name (please give suggestion for it) for op variants.

I'd rather have everything converted to the new approach (we don't want
2 ways of describing the same thing), and I'm not sure you can make the
old macros map to the new solution, so I fear you'll have to patch all
vendors. This being said, I'm fine providing simple wrappers if that
helps, but I don't see how they'd make the description simpler/more
compact to be honest.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-10  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-01  7:42 [PATCH v3 00/17] mtd: spinand: Add Octal DTR SPI (8D-8D-8D) mode support Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] spi: spi-mem: Add DTR templates for cmd, address, dummy and data phase Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-04 14:52   ` Mark Brown
2022-01-04 14:52     ` Mark Brown
2022-01-04 15:31   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-04 15:31     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-05  5:50     ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-01-05  5:50       ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-01-05  7:36       ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-05  7:36         ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-05  8:24     ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-01-05  8:24       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] mtd: spinand: Define macros for Octal DTR ops Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] mtd: spinand: Add enum spinand_protocol to indicate current SPI IO mode Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03 10:05   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:05     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] mtd: spinand: Rename 'op_templates' to 'data_ops' Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03  9:48   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03  9:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] mtd: spinand: Define ctrl_ops for non-page read/write op templates Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03 10:01   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:01     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:36     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:36       ` Boris Brezillon
2022-02-15 15:33     ` Apurva Nandan
2022-02-15 15:33       ` Apurva Nandan
2022-02-15 17:37       ` Boris Brezillon
2022-02-15 17:37         ` Boris Brezillon
2022-03-02 15:30         ` Apurva Nandan
2022-03-02 15:30           ` Apurva Nandan
2022-03-02 20:05           ` Boris Brezillon
2022-03-02 20:05             ` Boris Brezillon
2022-03-10  7:57         ` Apurva Nandan
2022-03-10  7:57           ` Apurva Nandan
2022-03-10  8:40           ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2022-03-10  8:40             ` Boris Brezillon
2022-03-14 11:47             ` Apurva Nandan
2022-03-14 11:47               ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] mtd: spinand: Define default ctrl_ops in the core Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] mtd: spinand: Switch from op macros usage to 'ctrl_ops' " Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] mtd: spinand: Add support for manufacturer-based ctrl_ops variations Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] mtd: spinand: Add change_mode() in manufacturer_ops Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-05  9:52   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-05  9:52     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] mtd: spinand: Add pointer to probed flash's spinand_info Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] mtd: spinand: Allow enabling/disabling Octal DTR mode in the core Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03 10:14   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:14     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] mtd: spinand: Add mtd_suspend() to disable Octal DTR mode at suspend Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03 10:17   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:17     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] mtd: spinand: winbond: Add support for write volatile configuration register op Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] mtd: spinand: winbond: Add octal_dtr_enable/disable() in manufacturer_ops Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] mtd: spianand: winbond: Add change_mode() manufacturer_ops Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-03 10:27   ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-03 10:27     ` Boris Brezillon
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] mtd: spinand: winbond: Rename cache op_variants struct variable Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] mtd: spinand: winbond: Add support for Winbond W35N01JW SPI NAND flash Apurva Nandan
2022-01-01  7:42   ` Apurva Nandan

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