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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, willemb@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] net: skbuff: let struct skb_ext live inside the head
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 14:28:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230216132835.GA14032@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230215101356.3b86c451@kernel.org>

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:43:32 +0100 Florian Westphal wrote:
> > I think the cleaner solution would be to move the new extension ids
> > into sk_buff itself (at the end, uninitialized data unless used).
> > 
> > Those extensions would always reside there and not in the slab object.
> 
> Do you mean the entire extension? 8B of metadata + (possibly) 32B 
> of the key?

32B is too much if its for something esoteric, but see below.

> > Obviously that only makes sense for extensions where we assume
> > that typical workload will require them, which might be a hard call to
> > make.
> 
> I'm guessing that's the reason why Google is okay with putting the key
> in the skb - they know they will use it most of the time. But an
> average RHEL user may appreciate the skb growth for an esoteric protocol
> to a much smaller extent :(

Absolutely, I agree that its a non-starter to place this in sk_buff
itself.  TX side is less of a problem here because of superpackets.

For RX I think your simpler napi-recycle patch is a good start.
I feel its better to wait before doing anything further in this
direction (e.g. array-of-cached extensions or whatever) until we've
a better test case/more realistic workload(s).

If we need to look at further allocation avoidances one thing that
could be evaluated would be placing an extension struct into
sk_buff_fclones (unioned with the fclone skb).
Fclone skb is marked busy, extension release clears it again.

Just something to keep in mind for later. Only downside I see is that
we can't release the extension area anymore before the skb gets queued.

      reply	other threads:[~2023-02-16 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-15  3:44 [RFC] net: skbuff: let struct skb_ext live inside the head Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-15  8:53 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-02-15 17:58   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-15  9:43 ` Florian Westphal
2023-02-15 14:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-02-15 18:10     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-15 18:13   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-16 13:28     ` Florian Westphal [this message]

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