From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
david.edmondson@oracle.com, sburla@marvell.com,
jasowang@redhat.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
shahafs@nvidia.com
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 06:16:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230503060538-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230503032659.530330-1-parav@nvidia.com>
On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 06:26:57AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> This patch introduces legacy registers access commands for the owner
> group member PCI PF to access the legacy registers of the member VFs.
>
> If in future any SIOV devices to support legacy registers, they
> can be easily supported using same commands by using the group
> member identifiers of the future SIOV devices.
Absolutely, but maybe we should not create work for this
case by repeating PF/VF terminology everywhere?
> More details as overview, motivation, use case are further described
> below.
>
> Patch summary:
> --------------
> patch-1 adds administrative virtuqueue commands
> patch-2 adds its conformance section
>
> This short series is on top of [1].
> It uses the newly introduced administrative virtqueue facility with 3 new
> opcodes and uses the existing virtio_admin_cmd.
>
> It is expected to go another rebase once v13 for [1] is rolled out and merged.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/virtio-comment/cover.1682354275.git.mst@redhat.com/T/#t
>
> Usecase:
> --------
> 1. A hypervisor/system needs to provide transitional
> virtio devices to the guest VM at scale of thousands,
> typically, one to eight devices per VM.
>
> 2. A hypervisor/system needs to provide such devices using a
> vendor agnostic driver in the hypervisor system.
>
> 3. A hypervisor system prefers to have single stack regardless of
> virtio device type (net/blk) and be future compatible with a
> single vfio stack using SR-IOV or other scalable device
> virtualization technology to map PCI devices to the guest VM.
> (as transitional or otherwise)
>
> Motivation/Background:
> ----------------------
> The existing virtio transitional PCI device is missing support for
> PCI SR-IOV based devices. Currently it does not work beyond
> PCI PF, or as software emulated device in reality. Currently it
> has below cited system level limitations:
>
> [a] PCIe spec citation:
> VFs do not support I/O Space and thus VF BARs shall not indicate I/O Space.
>
> [b] cpu arch citiation:
> Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer’s Manual:
> The processor’s I/O address space is separate and distinct from
> the physical-memory address space. The I/O address space consists
> of 64K individually addressable 8-bit I/O ports, numbered 0 through FFFFH.
>
> [c] PCIe spec citation:
> If a bridge implements an I/O address range,...I/O address range will be
> aligned to a 4 KB boundary.
>
> Above usecase requirements can be solved by PCI PF group owner enabling
> the access to its group member PCI VFs legacy registers using an admin
> virtqueue of the group owner PCI PF.
>
> Software usage example:
> -----------------------
> The most common way to use and map to the guest VM is by
> using vfio driver framework in Linux kernel.
>
> +----------------------+
> |pci_dev_id = 0x100X |
> +---------------|pci_rev_id = 0x0 |-----+
> |vfio device |BAR0 = I/O region | |
> | |Other attributes | |
> | +----------------------+ |
> | |
> + +--------------+ +-----------------+ |
> | |I/O BAR to AQ | | Other vfio | |
> | |rd/wr mapper | | functionalities | |
> | +--------------+ +-----------------+ |
> | |
> +------+-------------------------+-----------+
> | |
> +----+------------+ +----+------------+
> | +-----+ | | PCI VF device A |
> | | AQ |-------------+---->+-------------+ |
> | +-----+ | | | | legacy regs | |
> | PCI PF device | | | +-------------+ |
> +-----------------+ | +-----------------+
> |
> | +----+------------+
> | | PCI VF device N |
> +---->+-------------+ |
> | | legacy regs | |
> | +-------------+ |
> +-----------------+
>
> 2. Virtio pci driver to bind to the listed device id and
> use it as native device in the host.
>
> 3. Use it in a light weight hypervisor to run bare-metal OS.
>
> Please review.
>
> Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/167
> Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
I don't see an overview here though.
> ---
> changelog:
> v0->v1:
> - addressed comments, suggesetions and ideas from Michael Tsirkin and Jason Wang
> - far more simpler design than MMR access
> - removed complexities of MMR device ids
> - removed complexities of MMR registers and extended capabilities
> - dropped adding new extended capabilities because if if they are
> added, a pci device still needs to have existing capabilities
> in the legacy configuration space and hypervisor driver do not
> need to access them
>
>
> Parav Pandit (2):
> transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access commands
> transport-pci: Add legacy register access conformance section
>
> admin.tex | 5 +-
> conformance.tex | 2 +
> transport-pci-vf-regs.tex | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> transport-pci.tex | 2 +
> 4 files changed, 123 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> create mode 100644 transport-pci-vf-regs.tex
>
> --
> 2.26.2
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
david.edmondson@oracle.com, sburla@marvell.com,
jasowang@redhat.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
shahafs@nvidia.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 06:16:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230503060538-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230503032659.530330-1-parav@nvidia.com>
On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 06:26:57AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> This patch introduces legacy registers access commands for the owner
> group member PCI PF to access the legacy registers of the member VFs.
>
> If in future any SIOV devices to support legacy registers, they
> can be easily supported using same commands by using the group
> member identifiers of the future SIOV devices.
Absolutely, but maybe we should not create work for this
case by repeating PF/VF terminology everywhere?
> More details as overview, motivation, use case are further described
> below.
>
> Patch summary:
> --------------
> patch-1 adds administrative virtuqueue commands
> patch-2 adds its conformance section
>
> This short series is on top of [1].
> It uses the newly introduced administrative virtqueue facility with 3 new
> opcodes and uses the existing virtio_admin_cmd.
>
> It is expected to go another rebase once v13 for [1] is rolled out and merged.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/virtio-comment/cover.1682354275.git.mst@redhat.com/T/#t
>
> Usecase:
> --------
> 1. A hypervisor/system needs to provide transitional
> virtio devices to the guest VM at scale of thousands,
> typically, one to eight devices per VM.
>
> 2. A hypervisor/system needs to provide such devices using a
> vendor agnostic driver in the hypervisor system.
>
> 3. A hypervisor system prefers to have single stack regardless of
> virtio device type (net/blk) and be future compatible with a
> single vfio stack using SR-IOV or other scalable device
> virtualization technology to map PCI devices to the guest VM.
> (as transitional or otherwise)
>
> Motivation/Background:
> ----------------------
> The existing virtio transitional PCI device is missing support for
> PCI SR-IOV based devices. Currently it does not work beyond
> PCI PF, or as software emulated device in reality. Currently it
> has below cited system level limitations:
>
> [a] PCIe spec citation:
> VFs do not support I/O Space and thus VF BARs shall not indicate I/O Space.
>
> [b] cpu arch citiation:
> Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer’s Manual:
> The processor’s I/O address space is separate and distinct from
> the physical-memory address space. The I/O address space consists
> of 64K individually addressable 8-bit I/O ports, numbered 0 through FFFFH.
>
> [c] PCIe spec citation:
> If a bridge implements an I/O address range,...I/O address range will be
> aligned to a 4 KB boundary.
>
> Above usecase requirements can be solved by PCI PF group owner enabling
> the access to its group member PCI VFs legacy registers using an admin
> virtqueue of the group owner PCI PF.
>
> Software usage example:
> -----------------------
> The most common way to use and map to the guest VM is by
> using vfio driver framework in Linux kernel.
>
> +----------------------+
> |pci_dev_id = 0x100X |
> +---------------|pci_rev_id = 0x0 |-----+
> |vfio device |BAR0 = I/O region | |
> | |Other attributes | |
> | +----------------------+ |
> | |
> + +--------------+ +-----------------+ |
> | |I/O BAR to AQ | | Other vfio | |
> | |rd/wr mapper | | functionalities | |
> | +--------------+ +-----------------+ |
> | |
> +------+-------------------------+-----------+
> | |
> +----+------------+ +----+------------+
> | +-----+ | | PCI VF device A |
> | | AQ |-------------+---->+-------------+ |
> | +-----+ | | | | legacy regs | |
> | PCI PF device | | | +-------------+ |
> +-----------------+ | +-----------------+
> |
> | +----+------------+
> | | PCI VF device N |
> +---->+-------------+ |
> | | legacy regs | |
> | +-------------+ |
> +-----------------+
>
> 2. Virtio pci driver to bind to the listed device id and
> use it as native device in the host.
>
> 3. Use it in a light weight hypervisor to run bare-metal OS.
>
> Please review.
>
> Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/167
> Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
I don't see an overview here though.
> ---
> changelog:
> v0->v1:
> - addressed comments, suggesetions and ideas from Michael Tsirkin and Jason Wang
> - far more simpler design than MMR access
> - removed complexities of MMR device ids
> - removed complexities of MMR registers and extended capabilities
> - dropped adding new extended capabilities because if if they are
> added, a pci device still needs to have existing capabilities
> in the legacy configuration space and hypervisor driver do not
> need to access them
>
>
> Parav Pandit (2):
> transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access commands
> transport-pci: Add legacy register access conformance section
>
> admin.tex | 5 +-
> conformance.tex | 2 +
> transport-pci-vf-regs.tex | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> transport-pci.tex | 2 +
> 4 files changed, 123 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> create mode 100644 transport-pci-vf-regs.tex
>
> --
> 2.26.2
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-03 3:26 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 3:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 3:26 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access commands Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 3:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 5:42 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 5:42 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 14:47 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 14:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 16:48 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 16:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 17:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 17:21 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-04 6:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-04 6:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 5:50 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 5:50 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 14:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 14:49 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 16:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 16:49 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 17:23 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 17:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-04 6:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-04 6:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 19:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 19:21 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 19:38 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 19:38 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 20:08 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 20:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 20:13 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-05 3:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-05 3:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-05 12:48 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-05 12:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-06 2:24 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-06 2:24 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-06 2:25 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-06 2:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-03 3:26 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 2/2] transport-pci: Add legacy register access conformance section Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 3:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 5:48 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 5:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 14:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 14:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 19:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 19:18 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 19:56 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 19:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 10:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-05-03 10:16 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-03 14:57 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-03 14:57 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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