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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v19] virtio-net: support inner header hash
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 03:07:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230629030345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481EAD97F6163C52DF4FF53DC25A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 01:56:34AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:45 PM
> > > > Maybe I get it. You want to use the new features as a carrot to
> > > > force drivers to implement DMA? You suspect they will ignore the
> > > > spec requirement just because things seem to work?
> > > >
> > > Right because it is not a must normative.
> > 
> > Well SHOULD also does not mean "ok to just ignore".
> > 
> > 	This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there
> > 	   may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
> > 	   particular item, but the full implications must be understood and
> > 	   carefully weighed before choosing a different course.
> >
> RECOMMENDED and SHOULD forces the device to support MMIO, which is not good.

You said this already. Let's not repeat ourselves please.

It's a single word. We need to work on a patch, we can argue about
small detail once it's posted. It's not in your list of plans so
I am guessing we need someone on Red Hat side to work on this?

-- 
MST


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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v19] virtio-net: support inner header hash
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 03:07:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230629030345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481EAD97F6163C52DF4FF53DC25A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 01:56:34AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:45 PM
> > > > Maybe I get it. You want to use the new features as a carrot to
> > > > force drivers to implement DMA? You suspect they will ignore the
> > > > spec requirement just because things seem to work?
> > > >
> > > Right because it is not a must normative.
> > 
> > Well SHOULD also does not mean "ok to just ignore".
> > 
> > 	This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there
> > 	   may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
> > 	   particular item, but the full implications must be understood and
> > 	   carefully weighed before choosing a different course.
> >
> RECOMMENDED and SHOULD forces the device to support MMIO, which is not good.

You said this already. Let's not repeat ourselves please.

It's a single word. We need to work on a patch, we can argue about
small detail once it's posted. It's not in your list of plans so
I am guessing we need someone on Red Hat side to work on this?

-- 
MST


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-29  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-27 16:35 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v19] virtio-net: support inner header hash Heng Qi
2023-06-27 16:35 ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-28  3:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-06-28  3:46   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-06-28  4:23   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28  4:23     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28  5:37     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-06-28  5:37       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-06-28 15:59       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 15:59         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-29  3:17         ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-06-29  3:17           ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-06-30 11:42           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-30 11:42             ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 10:27     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 10:27       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 16:18       ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 16:18         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 16:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 16:45           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 17:06           ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 17:06             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 17:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 17:16               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 17:28               ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 17:28                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 17:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 17:23               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 17:38               ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 17:38                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 19:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 19:44                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29  1:56                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-29  1:56                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-29  2:05                     ` Heng Qi
2023-06-29  2:05                       ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-29 11:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 11:48                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 13:08                         ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-29 13:08                           ` Heng Qi
2023-06-29 16:59                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 16:59                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-30  0:54                           ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30  0:54                             ` Heng Qi
2023-06-30  1:36                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-30  1:36                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-30  1:55                               ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30  1:55                                 ` Heng Qi
2023-06-30  5:59                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30  5:59                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30  6:15                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30  6:15                                     ` Heng Qi
2023-06-30  8:17                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30  8:17                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 14:04                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30 14:04                                         ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30 14:52                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 14:52                                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 16:09                                           ` Heng Qi
2023-06-30 16:09                                             ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-30 16:56                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 16:56                                               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 17:33                                               ` Heng Qi
2023-06-30 17:33                                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-29  6:03                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29  6:03                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29  6:40                     ` Heng Qi
2023-06-29  6:40                       ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-06-29 11:38                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 11:38                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 11:46                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 11:46                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 12:01                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 12:01                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-29  7:07                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-29  7:07                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 11:38                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-30 11:38                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-30 15:30                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 15:30                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 10:10   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28 10:10     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29  3:31     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-06-29  3:31       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-06-29 11:54       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 11:54         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 11:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29 11:55           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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